Help Identifying this Ford 4000

Ford4000inTN

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Hey All,

Could you please help me identify this Ford 4000. Don't laugh. It is obviously well used, but runs great and I was able to purchase it for next to nothing. We are on a limited budget and are building a home on some land that we purchased.

Here is what I think I know:
1962-1964
Looks like a Jubilee posted in Dean C's Post:
http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=1297451
4 Cylinder Diesel
Select Speed-O-Speed Transmission
Mid-Western Front End Loader and Back Hoe Attachments

All of the fluids (Oil, Hydraulic, Transmission and Coolant) appear to be fresh and clean. I work on RV's for a living, so I am comfortable with the Fluid levels and quality.

The Tractor starts and runs great. All gears forward and reverse seem to work great. The Front End Loader and the Back Hoe seem to function well.

Here is what I don't know and would like your help with:

What year and sub model is this tractor. The serial number is gone (battery corrosion most likely). Please see the pictures that I have posted.

The Select-O-Speed transmission selector has red lines through gears 6 and 7. I am doing this from memory, might be other gears but it is two gears in a row. Kind of like it is ok to use gears 1-5, not 6-7 and 8.

Also, if you notice anything in the pictures that you would like to comment about or offer any advice about I would be very appreciative.

Thank you in advance for your help.
Greg in Tennesse
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Welcome to the forum.
It looks like it has 861 sheet metal to me, although I think that
was common to the early 4000 Industrial as well. It looks like it
may have an adjustable AG type front axle as well and no PS?
Might be an 861 with different paint and decals.
I think I'd try to find that model number and serial number.
Wish I could be of more help, just pointing out what I can see.
 
It looks to be a 871 or (unlikely) 881.

Regardless of what the transmission oil like, it almost certainly needs an oil and filter change.

Dean
 
It's not a 4000. it is a 871 or maybe 881. I would put my money on the more common 871. The fenders are off a hundred series
tractor not correct for an 01 series.
 

871 not a 4000 or 881, most likely a 58 model, fenders are for hundred series that may have been swapped, Ford that a lot of running production changes and may have been using up the rest of the hundred series fenders before changing over to the shell fender.
 

I'd vote for the 871. I think I would change oil and filter in SOS, adjust bands and refill with Hy Guard high viscosity oil.
 

The gears with red lines through them indicate gears in which it will coast. Later models like the 4000 were the dual clutch and did not coast.
The coasters used a sprague clutch or overriding clutch.
 
You guys are awesome!

So maybe a '58 871? I think that it does have Power Steering and AG Front end. I will verify.

If I may, what is a Jubilee and why does mine look just like the post from Dean C? I am referring to the body style, Air Intake and the Exhaust. Also, I have the little door on the left hood panel in front of the driver. See the picture of Dean's below. This is the closest picture to mine that I have been able to find.

http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=1297451

Again, thank you guys so much for getting me started down the right path.

I will definitely change the transmission oil and filter per your suggestion right away. I will probably change all fluids and filters even thought they look good and clean, just to have a known starting point.

Oh no, I just realized, I am going to have to change my username on the forum to 871inTN. Ha Ha

Thanks again,
Greg
 
Take a look at John Smith's awesome ID site [b:7b46216803]here.[/b:7b46216803]
The Jubilee was the 1953 (first year of) NAA model, so called
because it represented Ford's golden anniversary. The 1954 NAA
was not called a Jubilee even though they're the same model.

Your 8x1 has many improvements since that model.
There were many differences actually.
One which is easily visible is the rear axles. The 8N and NAA
had a two inch nut on the the outer end of the axle. Not so after
the NAA's. The x00 and x01 series didn't have it. You can't see
that in Dean's picture though because his pie weights cover it up.

Here's a picture of one of my Jubilees showing the axle nut.

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Royse,

John's site is incredible. I see where he states that the Select-O-Speed trans was introduced in 1959.

I am really going to have to find those serial numbers. The one behind the starter on the flat plate is toast or will not easily be readable.

Again, thank you for all of your help. I can see this is going to become a favorite past time.

Greg
 
801 series model 871 no hole in the PTO shaft like the 881. 1959.
There should be a tracking number on the opposite side of the bell
housing,same location as the serial numbers above the two holes.
Pick yourself a manual for the powermaster 801 series.
If your backhoe is the same one I had on my MF 202 then the whole
thing should slide from one side to the other making it easier to
get close to a building for treaching.
Good luck with your new tractor.

Kirk
 
I agree with Gene sage. You'd want to maintain the SOS transmission. The elusive filter can be found on Dennis Carpenter's website: http://nnalert/trac53-64transmission-clutch/c/6719/. Here's some trivia, O.P's photo #4, the "CWC" on the casting stands for Campbell, Wyatt and Cannon, the foundry that was contracted for the SOS transmissions by Ford.
 

You've found out what the red hash marks are about by now (and much, much more).

Ford, in its wisdom, marked the higher speed ratios that were "freewheeling". All the direct ratios in this transmission actually could coast out. The marked ones are 5,6 & 9. The unmarked ones are 1, 2 & R1.

Interesting bit of trivia about the CWC being s trademark. That was something I had not known.
 
Hey Royse, thanks for the preview, but how about the main attraction.....let's see the rest of your handywork!
 

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