ford 2000 question s/n about live pto

i just bought a 2000 at auction, was told it came from county and used for ditch mowing ... here are the s/n off it....2G11B and C345753 and B1013C .....i can see from the numbers that it is Diesel 8speed made in 1972 and live pto....everything works good, is a tight tractor and hour meter is working and says 250 hrs, everything works, so what is my question ? I can't figure out how to get into live pto. i just sold my Massey TO-35 and i know what a two stage clutch is, this ford is NOT a 2 stage clutch, so where is the live pto.....

If it has live pto, it DOES have a two-stage clutch. If
the clutch is adjusted and working properly, pushing
the pedal 2/3 of the way down stops power to the
transmission. Pushing it all the way down stops
power to the transmission and pto.
Don't believe the hour meter.

On my 800 their are two holes for pin at end of clutch pedal linkage . front hole no PTO disengade hole closest
to operator and it worked for me . yours may be different take a look

the s/n's indicate that it DOES have live pto .... I know a two stage clutch when I feel one, but this clutch does NOT feel as a two stage....Diesel, 3 cyl, 8F and 2R all numbers are correct, but where is the dang live pto???? is there a way to physically see if there are two clutch plates in there??? I will check out them holes u talked about....

Do you have an implement attached to the PTO? Hard to feel it engage by the feel of the clutch pedal when there's no load.

Push the clutch in with the transmission in neutral and engage the PTO using the handle on the left side, and then slowly let the clutch out while watching, or having someone else watch, the PTO shaft. Does the PTO start to spin when the clutch is part way out or only when it is all of the way out?

Well, provided that you got that model number off of the transmission info stamping... you should have live PTO. If you got it off the hood
tag without confirming the appropriate numbers on the transmission behind the starter... then you may find that the transmission has been
swapped.
Assuming it is all original, the most logical conclusion is to assume the PTO disc is rusted/stuck to the pressure plate. I guess if you want
to confirm that it's actually there you could pull the starter and take a light and mirror and see if you can visually see 2 discs at the
flywheel face. Beyond that... just split it and fix it.

Rod

My MIL's 3000 has live pto and it's hard for me to tell where it is on the pedal. On our old -00 series I could feel it in the pedal but not as much on the -000 series
2-3000 both had two stage clutch, 4000 and larger had independent pto that was hydraulicly engaged.

that's what I was wondering, if the 2000 had independent live pto or if it was 2 stage only, and apparently it has to be 2 stage or no live pto..... I'm pretty sure I got the numbers right, stamped on flange and they agree with the tag on the hood....I will do more investigating tomorrow.....

OK I see the problem, Your thinking two stage clutch and live pto are different types when they are the same thing.
Ford called the two stage clutch system live pto because you can start and stop the tractor without interfering with pto operations. The pto is controlled and driven by the second clutch.
Tractors like my 4000 with hydraulic engaged pto and a single clutch are called independent pto. The pto is direct driven from the engine and controlled by a hyd clutch pack in the rear axle housing.

it can be live via independent pto.. but those are 10 speed trannies.. SOS powershift.

Hi: I just bought what I believe to be a 1966 Ford 3000 or maybe 2000. No decals on this. I could use some help with these numbers that are near the starter. The #'s are as follows 6C17B, H 25 6, B047045. I understand that this was built in Basildon and not USA. I this a 2000 or 3000 tractor?
Thanks Guys.

OK....thanks , I got it figured out....it is a 2 stage , very smooth compaired to my MF....I won't be able to test it completely until next spring, but everything looks good, except now I have to figure out why it does not stop running when I shut the key off.... I see that problem is addressed here and that is next on my FIX IT list..........

Not to bash you but you need to get a operators manual for that tractor.
Your 2000 diesel will never shut off with the key, on the right side of the dash should be two knobs, the one on the bottom should be black and operates the head lights.
The top knob should be orange or red and is the engine kill knob. The inj pump has a lever connected to a cable that's operated by the engine kill knob, pulling out on the knob shuts the engine down and prevents it from starting until the knob is pushed back in.

you are correct DESTROKED except for the colors, I'm no diesel expert by any means.....I bought this ford because it has more power and appears very tight....and I thought the price was a bargin......$925 .....I then sold my old MF-35 .....would love to get a manual,and not the DVD cheapie, but a real one....

I'm not sure about the tractor dvd manuals but I picked up some for my pickups that where exact copies of the factory service manuals
I got a on line manual for my baler and printed it off to make my own manual.

So call a CNH dealer and order one. Last I checked they were quite available. Ebay is another option if you want a used one...

Rod

Bargain h*ll, you stole that tractor! Well done.

John

(quoted from post at 16:39:33 10/28/16) Hi: I just bought what I believe to be a 1966 Ford 3000 or maybe 2000. No decals on this. I could use some help with these numbers that are near the starter. The #'s are as follows 6C17B, H 25 6, B047045. I understand that this was built in Basildon and not USA. I this a 2000 or 3000 tractor?
Thanks Guys.

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Can't tell from those numbers.

B047045 is the serial number. You are correct that the B at the beginning means it was assembled at the plant in Basildon in the UK. It is a fairly low serial number.

6C17B looks to be the Unit Number,, which some folks call the production or date code. It says that the tractor was assembled on March 17, 1966 during the day shift.

The H 25 6 might be another date code, but if it is it would be August 25, 1966, so that would make the other one the date that the transmission was assembled as this one is later so this one would be the date the tractor was assembled. In either case it is a 1966 tractor and nothing really changed between those dates.

The model number might be up in the rough part of the casting, or maybe in the similar flat spot on the left side. If it is a 2000 it would start with 210 and if it is a 3000 it would start with 310 since it was made before they switched the first character to a letter in 1968.

The easiest way to tell the difference between a 2000 and 3000 without having the model number is that the 3000's had a flow control knob (black plastic knob, might have been painted the same color as the rest of the tractor though, on the right side near where your right calf is when you're sitting on the tractor) and the 2000's did not. Also, the 2000's had an exposed draft spring on the rear of the hydraulic top cover and on the 3000's the spring was inside a metal housing so you couldn't see it.