Ford 1801 HD Industrial tractor

Hello All;
Do Ford 1801 HD Industrial tractors have a 3 point hitch and hydraulics? This tractor currently has a backhoe mounted and a loader.
Thanks,
Skip

(quoted from post at 19:44:50 10/16/16) Hello All;
Do Ford 1801 HD Industrial tractors have a 3 point hitch and hydraulics? This tractor currently has a backhoe mounted and a loader.
Thanks,
Skip

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Not all of 'em. If it has a hoe it is not likely to have a 3 pt.

I've had them both ways so it to hard to tell but as Sean said most didn't and the ones that did also had a pto. As long as you stabilizer pistons are in good shape and don't leak it's not all that hard
to drop the backhoe(with some quick disconnect hoses) for 3pt use. You would have to see if the tires were loaded to counter balance for loader work because most weren't loader because they used the backhoe as the counter weight. Model number might give you a better idea.
PS, The steering on the 1801 model was a cable system. Part are no longer available.

Kirk

Thanks Kirk for your input. As the tractor is listed as a Ford 4000 HD Industrial, I would think it is an 1801 model, though the owner does not know. The loader and backhoe seem to be original. He said the power steering is tight (?) maybe a replaced Jackson unit, again who knows. As it has a PTO and hydraulics to run the loader and backhoe, I would guess it is an 1841 variant. He does not know. some more research...
Thanks,
Skip

The 4000 HD was the later model with better steering system.

Kirk

get the model number off the boss where the serial number is, then you'll know what it is -

Decoding the 5 digit model numbers on 2000-4000 series tractors - (4 cylinder motor)

First number (1 digit)
2**** - 134 ci gasoline or 144 ci diesel engine
4**** - 172 ci gas, LP-gas or 172 ci diesel engine

Second number (1 digit)
*0*** - Industrial models produced prior to 1963
*1*** - Industrial and agricultural models produced after 1963

Third number (2 digits)
**10 * - Row crop
**11 * - Offset
**20 * - Utility-type w/adjustable front axle
**21 * - Orchard type w/ non-adjustable front axle
**30 * - Utility-type tractor w/non-adjustable front axle (light industrial)
**31 * - Low center of gravity (LCG tractor)
**40 * - Heavy duty industrial tractor w/sub frame
**41 * - Heavy duty industrial tractor w/sub frame & cast grille

Last number (1 digit)
*1**0 - Four-speed w/o PTO
*0**1 - Four-speed w/o PTO or hydraulics
*1**1 - Four-speed w/PTO
*0**2 - Four-speed w/hydraulics, w/o PTO
*1**2 - Five-speed w/live PTO
*0**3 - Four-speed w/hydraulics and PTO
*0**4 - Select-O-Speed w/o hydraulics or PTO
*1**4 - Select-O-Speed w/o PTO
*0**5 - Select-O-Speed w/hydraulics and single-speed (540 rpm) PTO
*0**6 - Select-O-Speed w/hydraulics, 540 and 1000 rpm PTO and ground-speed PTO
*1**6 - Select-O-Speed w/two-speed (540 and 1000 rpm) independent PTO
*1**7 - Select-O-Speed w/540 and 1000 rpm independent PTO and ground-speed PTO
*0**9 - Five-speed w/live PTO

Suffixes
-1 - Tricycle with single front wheel
-4 - High clearance with wide front
-L - LP gas engine
-D - Diesel engine

Turns pout the tractor is a Ford 4000 HD Industrial tractor with loader and backhoe.

Hello;
I am still interested in the Ford 4000 HD Industrial tractor and would like to ask for your comments; if I have already asked these questions, I apologize.
This Ford 4000 HD Industrial tractor is a working and complete unit with loader and backhoe, both Ford units. The tractor is working and according to the seller: "everything works". He describes it as an "old working tractor'. From the pictures, it looks like this unit is all original. The owner sounds like the tractor has been his, or in the family, for sometime.
This tractor is 400+ miles away in Central California. I don't own a heavy duty truck and/or trailer. I have not seen the tractor in person. I am also not a great mechanic, and have thought about hiring a local tractor mechanic to inspect and report the on the condition of the tractor.
Finally, the overrun wants $4500 for the tractor, loader and backhoe (or) he will separate the tractor loader from the backhoe and sell either for $2500. I don't have much use for the backhoe, but is this a unit that should stay together?
Many facets of my questions, any comments are great appreciated.
Thanks,
Skip