Ford 4000 4 wheel drive

Ford 4000 4 wheel drive

I just bought a 1974 Ford 4000 tractor and I am trying to find a manual for the tractor. Lots out there on the Ford 4000 but not any I can find on the 4 wheel drive. Does anybody have any suggestions.

Thanks for your help,
Mark
 
The front axle will be some kind of aftermarket
conversion. .. Ford didn't offer 4wheel drive (front
wheel assist) until '81, and not until '82 on 3-cylinder
models. First, figure out what brand of axle you
have... then try to track down a manual for it.
 
Ford didn't offer four wheel drive yet in 1974 so it is an aftermarket system. Are you able to post pictures? I am more versed in the Elenco
and Sherman Napco systems, but those were only offered in the 50's and I don't think either of them could be adapted to a 1974 4000.
 
As Fordfarmer says, if it's a 1974 4000, then it wasn't made by Ford as a 4WD tractor. There were several aftermarket companies that did conversions. Post some pictures of the tractor showing the drive shaft going to the front axle, where the drive shaft connects to the transmission or rear end, and the front axle itself, and someone here should be able to help identify which aftermarket conversion it is.
 
Here is a picture of the 4 wheel drive. Please let me know if you need more. Thanks for your help.
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Thanks for the pictures. Hopefully someone will come along that knows for sure and tell you which 4wd after market conversion it has. Are the front tires the same size as the rear tires, or are they smaller? If they are the same size my guess would be that it's a County, which was a British company.
 
Mark, your 4wd is a European version. The name escapes me right now. Does your tractor have headlights in the grille like the European models would have? It is uncommon to see your 4wd in the states. On a side note, if you still have your front wheel off, please put your cement block on the side so the openings are on the top. The block has much less strength on it's side and would hate to see the block break and the tractor come down when you are not ready for it.
 
I am ivor from UK and I used to work at main IH dealer so I am not familiar with Ford but could the tractor be Roadless
 
I think the casting is filled with rubber. It is common on older large rock truck which allows the drive shaft to break or spin there instead of breaking an axle. I have seen it happen on rock trucks and they will catch on fire there.
 
(quoted from post at 04:06:29 09/12/16) do this look familiar?
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Well, you have seen my tractor. Still have it. I have a loader on it. It is a beast on my farm.
Mine has a Schindler front axle, looks like yours does also. Other than my pictures, there are no parts list out there. But if you are mechanically inclined, you can size, and find spares or get a machine shop to custom fabricate.
Mine has a FORD OEM transfer (Brit use only) and brake assembly, not sure what you have. The illustrations are listed on the FNH site, but most transfer parts are NLA. You can get some seals and brake pads, but little else.

Front axle is Metric on MINE. Therefore the bearings and u-joints are metric. Once you get your head into metric sizes and measure them, they are available. But if you use SAE measurements, you will have no luck.

Why do I say this? I had the joint in my hand, and 7 parts shops couldn't find the size, because no matter what I said they wanted to use SAE. I said screw these idiots and finally went online, ordered the parts with metric size, they came in and I installed them. Easy. I wasted my time. I even took my entire drive shaft for repair, and after more time wasted easily fixed it. You would think by now that part shops and tractor repair would understand metric sizes, but no, they do not, at least here in Virginia and NC. Sorry for ranting, but for me, working a full time job and farming, nothing is more valuable than time. Even time wasted to mistakes and ignorance is inexcusable and cause for a rant. Sorry.

My rear end is unique due to FWD. Where the bull gear accepts the transfer has some unique parts. I know this because I split my tractor, tore down my rear end and replaced all leaking gaskets and seals.

To date, I have rebuilt my drive shaft, replace the differential seal, bearings ect. My next project is to replace the u-joints inside the steering knuckles. Grease fitting are broke and it is just time till the joints fail, like in the next 20 years.

mine has power steering Ford After market cylinder on LH tie rod. Steers well.

The tractor is built like a tank, this is a good bulletproof design.

The only real problem I had was bolts that became loose on the front axle steering knuckle. Nothing worked to stop it. Until I installed NordLock washer on new bolts, and installed. Pricey washers, but well worth it.

There are two of these tractors broke because these bolts fall out, and the knuckles are NLA and hard to repair. With no bolts, the knuckle cracks or breaks. One fella in Alabama and another in NC had the same problem, and to this date, I do not know whether they are fixed. Likely fixed, they stopped contacting me. Not sure.

I am in contact with about 5 other tractor owners who have issues and we sort them out.

My tractor gets quite a lot of use. I feed round bales in the winter with it, especially. I use it to move my trailers around, because my farm is not flat, and often I can get a 4WD truck stuck with trailer. So when I load cows, the beast brings them out of the pasture. I pull trees and move brush with it, making new pastures.

I like oddball- good equipment, and the Ford 4000 with this kit, certainly fits both criteria.

Wayne
 
"Mine has a Schindler front axle, looks like yours does also."

I looked at the pictures again on a real computer, not my phone, and you may not have a Schindler. My Schindler does not have hub ends sticking through the rim like yours. The flanges are flat. But I bet it is still metric, maybe a Carrerro.
 
I studied your pictures again. Your 4WD tractor is little or nothing like mine. First you have a different front axle. Second, your tractor has an extended transmission adapter to power the transfer, which stretches the tractor 4-6 inches. Likely the internal stub drive shaft is longer, and perhaps drives a gear or chain transfer. Mine has an OEM designed transfer that bolts thru the PTO housing on left with a bull gear from the differential driving the transfer.
To be honest, your package design is simpler and likely easier to custom repair. If you have no leaks on that extension adapter, you have an awesome package. I actually like your 4WD design.
My tractor will turn tighter, but you may not require as much ballast with your loader. I have my rear tires pump FULL of antifreeze, with almost no air, and that ballast the loader well.
 
Mine has an OEM designed transfer that bolts thru the PTO housing on left with a bull gear from the differential driving the transfer.

How can yours have an "OEM designed" transfer if Ford didn't make any 4WD tractors until years after the 4000 was no longer made, or was your tractor 2WD for many years and then retrofitted to 4WD after Ford started making 4WD tractors?
 
Good question. Parts listings are found on the FNH website, and as I stated most hard parts are NLA. The unit apparently doubled as a emergency brake in Britain. It is called the transmission Handbrake. For tractors with L/Load monitor. My unit bolts onto the left rear housing at the round access plate behind the clutch pedal. I did some custom repairs and replaced the heli-coils in the housing, and replaced the bolts, which on mine are allen-headed bolts.
I used the listing and ordered the handgrip for the emergency brake handle, the button rod, the seal to the brake disk area, replacement brake ceramic disks and the boot adjustment rod. So I call it OEM because I can order some parts from the FNH website and see the others.
(4000 - SERIES) - 3 CYL TRACTOR (1/65-12/74) > (02B03) - HANDBRAKE (NH-E) - 3055, 4100, 5100, 7100

I printed a copy from my local tractor dealer in Crew Virginia, and took some of the NLA numbers and searched the internet. Had a few hits outside of FNH. Didn't need the parts but it was good knowing they were real. Found a complete unit, pricey, but found it and made a note in one of my electronic files on my old notebook computer.

So I call it OEM because I can order some parts from the FNH website and see the others.
 
According to older gents in the tractor business at the time, and my serial #; my tractor came thru Michigan with tires off like the rest of US Ford tractor, but no front axle, and on some kind of shipping pallet with a 4WD kit in a box that was installed per the buyers order. My tractor came from the state of Tennessee, and had seen use in mowing roadways for the state. Apparently. Other unique features on my tractor is a turn signal arm box built in and brake light switch with a well made wiring harness. While it apparently has never had a cab, and when I got it had no serious rear lights, the lights in the grill were HELLA. Kinda bright.

While it factually is hard to say my tractor was two wheel drive and converted later or it was convert new before delivery or what: I can only take the facts as I know them and testimony of older gents in the business then and say it has a well made 4WD kit with some parts on the transfer showing on FNH website and articles stating the Schindler conversion were the choice units at the time because the way they turned so tight.
I don't know. I like the tractor and I am not getting rid of it.
Wayne
 
So I call it OEM because I can order some parts from the FNH website and see the others.
(4000 - SERIES) - 3 CYL TRACTOR (1/65-12/74) > (02B03) - HANDBRAKE (NH-E) - 3055, 4100, 5100, 7100

02B03 is a European only hand brake that connects to the brake pedal linkage.

The transmission hand brake is 02B01. When I go through the parts site to the transmission hand brake (02B01) for the 3 cylinder 4000, I see the brake assembly which looks like the top part of the housing where your 4WD transfer is located, but the lower section, where the drive shaft comes out of it to go to the front axle doesn't exist in that drawing at all. I think that it just proves that some aftermarket 4WD company figured out how to make use of a factory available access to the drive train via the hand brake assembly, but they still added all of the rest, and I don't think that the hand brake assembly was ever intended to be used as a 4WD transfer assembly. And that's certainly not how the Ford engineers did it when they actually started making 4WD tractors themselves several years later.
 
You are right, today. I used an old book from my FNH parts dealer in Crew, VA and it had the drawing of my transfer. When I put the part numbers in the website, they mostly popped up NLA. That is what I have stated.

The transfer does not seem to be a weak link. I backed over a huge stump on mine (at night), bending the support bracket and starting a leak. I had to pull the transfer and replace stretched heli-coils in my housing, so I got down into the weeds over the transfer. As it turned out, absolutely nothing was damaged to the unit, but while I was there, I replaced the rubber boot, the adjustment rod, the ceramic disks and the handle grip and push-button to release the emergency brake. I replaced a couple of seals also. I flushed the unit out with diesel looking for wear metals. None. It was tight. Drained for a couple of weeks while I did the heli-coils and a few other repairs, and when I put it back together it has been good since. This was nearly ten years ago.
 

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