1974 Ford 2000 Rear Axle Outer Seal

ArkanDan45

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I have the axle off and can't figure out how to get at the outer seal on this thing. It has differential lock so I don't think it has the locking collar. It does have a 2 3/4" nut that seems to be holding everything together. It is recessed into the housing and the axle shaft is about two feet long. Would take a really DEEP well socket to access this. Anyone have experience with this operation? If there is a special tool for this where might one find it? Thanks in advance for any and all assistance.
 

Check with your local NH dealer to see if they have tool # T4095 or N-4235-D, if not find a 2 3/4 axle nut socket from a big truck parts supplier and modify it to add a handle making it a socket wrench.
 

Check with your local NH dealer to see if they have tool # T4095 or N-4235-D, if not find a 2 3/4 axle nut socket from a big truck parts supplier and modify it to add a handle making it a socket wrench.[/quote]

OK I thought I might have to make a tool. I'm guessing if the dealer had the tools you mention I would not want to afford them. I did order this tool in anticipation of what might need to be done. E-Bay #281307713454 Powerbuilt 2 3/4" 6 Pt. Rounded Hex Wheel Bearing Locknut Socket Ford - 647068 It looks like I can cut the top out of it and either use a pipe wrench on it or weld a make shift handle to it. Anything else I should know about this operation? Seems to be two different seals available and not sure which I need. Guess I'll call the dealer on that. Thanks a lot.
 
Of the two part numbers listed for the seal, one (14A in the drawing) says L/Differential lock, which means "less differential lock", or "without differential lock", so since you said that yours has the differential lock you should be needing the other one, labelled 14 in the drawing, part number 86531999.
 
get a new locking nut and get it TIGHT as you can The locking nut is available aftermarket and well worth the $
Boss
 
Go to a 4X4 supply outfit and buy a socket
wrench that is used for the front axle on
a pickup to fit. They are just stamped
sheet metal but work fine. You will have
to modify it. Remove the cross bar where
you plug your ratchet in and weld a handle
of some sort on the side.
4H500.jpg
 
(quoted from post at 14:18:45 09/02/16) Of the two part numbers listed for the seal, one (14A in the drawing) says L/Differential lock, which means "less differential lock", or "without differential lock", so since you said that yours has the differential lock you should be needing the other one, labelled 14 in the drawing, part number 86531999.

Thanks for that explanation of the "L". More acquainted with the W or W/O designations. I've got that 86531999 pair of seals on the way.
 
(quoted from post at 17:57:41 09/03/16) get a new locking nut and get it TIGHT as you can The locking nut is available aftermarket and well worth the $
Boss

I know it would be a really good thing to get new, but do you think using the old ones would be that disastrous? I've checked on the price and availability of these and they are made of gold these days or so it seems. The folks here would want $55 for a pair. An E-bayer wants $39 for a pair, but don't look like actual locking nuts.? Couldn't the old ones be cleaned up and some lock tite dabbed on work out? This tractor isn't mine, but I know it doesn't get used a whole lot and is mainly a bush hog tractor.
 
(quoted from post at 03:18:48 09/04/16) Go to a 4X4 supply outfit and buy a socket
wrench that is used for the front axle on
a pickup to fit. They are just stamped
sheet metal but work fine. You will have
to modify it. Remove the cross bar where
you plug your ratchet in and weld a handle
of some sort on the side.
4H500.jpg

Thank you for that. I was in step with you and have ordered that socket from an E-bay guy selling it for $11.99 delivered. Hope it will work out.
 
I like to use the nuts with the nylon insert that locks the nut. I have had the original nits to back off even with lock tight, JMO
Boss
 
Well this socket: (E-Bay #281307713454 Powerbuilt 2 3/4" 6 Pt. [b:0f13d2f91e]Rounded [/b:0f13d2f91e]Hex Wheel Bearing Locknut Socket Ford - 647068) didn't do the trick. In my haste I neglected to note that it is a "rounded 6pt". So that went out the window. The socket that is pictured (4H500-J11 @ $27.50) is found only in Australia it seems and S/H would be quite pricey I'm afraid. I did find this one in the US on E-bay: Item #222202548029, 2-3/4" 3/4" Drive 6 Point Wheel Bearing Locknut Socket, $25.00 delivered. Will wait and see how that one turns out. Just thought I'd better post in case someone ordered the one I first mentioned (#281307713454) thinking it would work. It does not.
 
Got the new socket. Ground out the top drive and it worked great. It's extra heavy duty and used a 36" pipe wrench to turn it. Turned hard all the way. Threads were saturated with what appears to be loctite. Anyway, now I can't get the bearing to come off. It appears to be a press fit.? Can't use the press as all there is to press against is the wheel/brake plate. That just bends. Looks like a puller with about a 28-30" jaw is needed. Anyone deal with one of these in their lifetime? Any suggestions appreciated. I'm already thinking dealer or machine shop.
 

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