What I learned tuning up my purchased Ford 3000 (so far)

lastcowboy32

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In the name of paying the group back for their help. Here are some things that tripped me up, that maybe I can keep the next guy out of...

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Three things in the picture above.

Finding out that the battery tray pivots out made my life much better.

Also, if you're fussin' with the distributor, there is a little shield to the forward side of the tractor. Take that out of the way, it makes your life much easier, with respect to getting your hand to the back clip for the distributor cap.

Hard to see, but just under the seat is a hydraulic remote unit that I bought for 279 bucks from Southeast Tractor. It's a full (out and back, two hose) single remote. I just used it yesterday on the haybine. Seems to work fine. Dealers around here wanted 500 bucks for a scrap one of actual Ford provenance. Time will tell. By the way, the remote unit's instructions said that you "may" need forma-gasket to seal it down...I did. It leaked just a tiny bit the first time that I bolted it in place.



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It makes a BIG difference if you use the correct spark plug boots! I bought this tractor with "will fit" boots. The plugs are down in the block, right under a seam in the hood. Water drips in there, crud gets in there. These plugs were so corroded, that they barely held a wrench to come out. The seats were also rusty, which caused problems when I installed the new plugs (see later). The plugs looked like crap. The ends of the plug wires were all corroded inside the boots. Just bad, bad, bad all over.

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I had to get the crap out of the spark plug holes before I could even get a wrench on them. Shop vac tip....plus 3/8" gas line...with a cake decorating tip (apologies to my wife) all taped together got down in there to suck it out after I loosened it with a screwdriver. A tiny wand with compressed air might work too. After I got the plugs out, I turned the tractor over with the starter a few times with no plugs in the holes to let the compression blow out anything still in the bores or that maybe fell into the cylinder.

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This is what they looked like when they came out.

By the way, your deep well 13/16" impact socket won't fit down in the bore. I had to make a run downtown to grab a thin-walled (non-impact) 13/16" deep well socket to get down in the bore to get these out.

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It may be obvious to most, but I should just mention...if you see sketchy lumps of electrical tape on the wiring, pull it back. Under this piece were a couple of wire ends lazily twisted together, just waiting to come undone at the worst moment in the middle of haying on some 90 degree day far from your garage.

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Crimp connectors are cheap. Marine grade, adhesive shrink tubing is cheap...all available at Harbor Freight. It doesn't cost much to make a better connection than just twisting two wires together.

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Someone adapted a car muffler. It actually wasn't that bad of an idea, but all rusty, loud and leaking. I copied it with a 40 dollar "Ford" muffler from Tractor Supply and about ten bucks in adapters from NAPA to lengthen the end of the muffler. 2" OD fits in the exhaust manifold. 2-1/2" OD fits over the exhaust manifold (I used a wrench as a spacer during welding)...a rain cap and a 2-3/4" muffler clamp to clamp it onto the exhaust manifold, and it's quiet with no fumes at the operator station.

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The screws for the points and the condenser can be a pain. Tweezers, or a magnetized screwdriver...you'll probably need somthing to get them in place and started.

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The "official" plug wires in the kit from this website are designed to seal the bores. That's good. No more crud around the spark plugs. Problem is, I couldn't push the boots down far enough to get that satisfying "click" to seat on the spark plug. After some test running of the tractor (which was smooth as silk) it started skipping. Yup....number two plug wire popped out of the bore. I tried putting soap on the cable to maybe slide the boot. No dice. So, I cut the flange off of the boots to get the wires right down in there and feel the click. This is when I found another issue. My number two plug wire then held fine, until I went out with the haybine and really put some gas to the old girl. It still popped. My reasoning is this. Remember how crappy the old plugs look, and remember how tight I said that the bores were for the socket. I think that my number two plug wasn't seated properly (I torqued it in at 30ft-lbs, as said in the manual)...I was thinking that I may have gotten a pre-mature click on my torque wrench. My guess is that a little compression was leaking past and popping the plug boot up and out of the bore. I re-tweaked the spark plug...re-installed the boot...again and then worked the tractor hard for a few hours with no issues.


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After all of that, once the wiring, plug wires, points, condenser, distributor cap, rotor and the coil were made right, I found that this little 3000 is a silky smooth, quiet, clean running little power house. Ran my haybine and baler quietly and effectively. My wife used it some last night, and she approves. If my cowgirl is happy. I'm happy.
 
Great writeup and pics cowboy!

I found with those wires I needed to scootch the boot up the wire a bit to get the connector to click onto the plug. Some dielectric grease on the boots helps em slide in and seal.

Nice fab job on the exhaust.

Thanks for the detailed update.
 
(quoted from post at 10:42:25 08/09/16) Great writeup and pics cowboy!

I found with those wires I needed to scootch the boot up the wire a bit to get the connector to click onto the plug. Some dielectric grease on the boots helps em slide in and seal.

Nice fab job on the exhaust.

Thanks for the detailed update.

Thanks.

You got your boots to move? I tried some soap. Maybe dielectric grease would have worked better. I even had the tube of it in my hands, because I re-made some fast-on contacts to replace some sketchy wiring. I put some dawn on the wire, pushed and tried tugging the contact from the inside with needle-nosed pliers. Just couldn't move it.

At the end of the day, it was the only new set of plug wires that I had, and I didn't want to risk damaging them. Maybe I'll see if I can get another set of plug wires and get them to slide, but right now, it's running great, and the holes are still sealed better than they were.
 
I have a '76 3600 and it does the same thing with #2. Blows the wire off. Switched to NGK plugs and hasn't done it since. Had Autolite when I got it, went to Champion and ran really bad. Went to ngk, runs better and has not blown off. Turned the Champion upside down and put in a vise. Filled around electrode with penetrant and it leaked out.
It had sat for 10 years when I got it with the autolites.
 
(quoted from post at 19:17:25 08/09/16) I have a '76 3600 and it does the same thing with #2. Blows the wire off. Switched to NGK plugs and hasn't done it since. Had Autolite when I got it, went to Champion and ran really bad. Went to ngk, runs better and has not blown off. Turned the Champion upside down and put in a vise. Filled around electrode with penetrant and it leaked out.
It had sat for 10 years when I got it with the autolites.

Had a similar experience with a Stihl 012 chainsaw. Couldn't find a Bosch or NGK plug, so bought a Champion. Started good but down on power and power head of saw started getting oily. Bad seal between ceramic insulator and body. That was an hour out of my life gone forever.
 

I mentioned on a post I needed to make a band clamp for my muffler, Greg Wolodkin said he did not use one on his so I did not on mine so far so good...

No way in ell would U type muffler clamp will go on mine I have fought all I ever plan to fight in my lifetime. :wink:
 
I took off my instrument cluster of my '73 2000 and found the space between the tank and top of cowl was filled with mice nest( I mean packed) and about 5-6 wires had the insulation chewed off in various places.

Found another 4-5 places on the tractor the wire covering wore off from vibration over the years.

Wrapping these up with tape and next going through the fuel lines piece by piece.

Plan on starting the tractor this weekend.
 
Enjoyed reading your story. I was "flashing back" to the same problems with my 3400. Great tractor, thanks for sharing.
 
(quoted from post at 06:50:59 08/10/16) Enjoyed reading your story. I was "flashing back" to the same problems with my 3400. Great tractor, thanks for sharing.

Thanks for all of the feedback. I was starting to think that I was crazy. It was like there was a little mythical gremlin pulling that plug wire undone.

I never even thought about the plugs, themselves, having a compression leak!
 
........... 2" OD fits in the exhaust manifold. 2-1/2" OD fits over the exhaust manifold ......

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I bent my muffler and rebuilt the connector but I could not get 2-1/2" pipe to work . I had to cut a slot and make it larger .

I have a new aftermarket exhaust manifold and a used ? one that has about half of the top chipped off from the exhaust bouncing back and forth ? The 2-1/2" did not fit on either one , but the 2" od fit perfect .

I rebuilt the tall muffler but also cobbled together an ugly over the hood horizontal muffler for running the fence lines and around trees . I don't really get a face full of exhaust but every once and a while I catch a whiff . They are easy enough to swap out .

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