1969 Ford 3400 Ag. LIGHT switch part#

Hi Folks

(I'm ready to loose my mind here, talking with 2 tractor places and a car parts place for 4 hours now.)

Can anyone tell me what the light switch part number would have been for a 1969 Ford 3400 Agricultural Diesel Tractor?

I "think" its a E7NN11654AA, based on what I can find here: http://partstore.agriculture.newholland.com/us/parts-search.html#epc::mr317369

Anyone have this specific Ford tractor? Not sure if it's a rotary or push-pull type switch (tractor was bought w/o one).

Looking at the electrical schematics, it shows it has 4 wires running to it (so I'm thinking it was a push-pull type). RED-WHITE instrument lights, BLUE-RED headlights, RED tail lighting, BROWN ignition switch.

I've managed to figure out what's what with a double-on toggle, but I'd like to get back to the original, so I know that the switch is made to be outdoors (and original would be nice too).

If I can get the correct switch, I can start focusing on tracking down the instrument lighting.

Thanks
Rob
Rob
 
I'll simply throw this out, and this has been my observation only: Rotary switches were generally used on the English versions, and the pull type switches were more likely used on the tractors made in the states.
 
I think this is a good assumption, knowing my buddy has a Ford 2000 (about the same year) and his is a push-pull. (He just didn't want me to start pulling covers and switches out to look at his setup and I can't blame him :)

My guess, was that this replacement switch would work:

www.ebay.com/itm/LIGHT-SWITCH-FORD-2000-3000-4000-5000-7000-TRACTOR-PUSH-PULL-TYPE-C5NN1164-/152061771273

(But I was hoping for a sanity check from the group, especially when the cheap toggle switch I bought started heating up. I figure I'd do the job once and the right way :)

Thanks
Rob
 
That's a rotary switch, yours should have been a push-pull, Ford current part number is 251405

see #3 in drawing, looks like knob, nut and such don't come with it

FYI, this site sells them in aftermarket for about $9.00 search for 251405 in the ford parts
click for parts drawing
 
neighborBOB,
The light housings and connections get rusty and corroded. This will cause the lights to draw more current and heat up switches and blow fuses. Just something to check before you spend money on a new switch.
HTH
Keith
 
thanks, went through it pretty good so far.

(2 new headlights in the front, 2 new bulbs in the OLD headlights which are now in the rear + the original red light is in the rear)

Once I get a light switch which functions like the original, I'll try to get the instrument panel and select-o-shift bulbs working to.

thanks
bob
 
As the others have said, E7NN11654AA is a rotary switch that is the proper part for a European made (A or B serial number) tractor. The US made tractors (C serial numbers) would have had the pull type switch, current part number 251405.
 
ordered one here.

also note that even though photo here doesn't show switch with a knob, it does come with one (according to the parts person here).

thanks
bob
 
I still have the one I bought here in a box... waiting for when I add lights back to my '73 4000. I took the original lights off when I added a loader a few years ago and have been planning to add lights back to the tractor whenever I can get some spare time.
 
Sounds like the guys here got you covered.
Just one comment:
A 3400 is not an Agricultural model.
Nor is it an Industrial.
It is a Utility tractor.
 
thanks

(just assumed agricultural, because it was: blue (not yellow), had 2 cylinders to operated the steering (not one), cast front axle versus tube, bigger wheels, sits higher, etc.)

you aren't telling me there is a 3400 agricultural, industrial and utility, are you? if so, what are the differences?

bob
 
definitely worth doing.

for me, trying to use the tractor at night or twilight was down-right dangerous, especially with a select-o-shift setup.

good luck

bob
 
Only one 3400.
Though Ford did use the same platform for the Ag, Ut and In derivatives - 3000, 3400 and 3500. Not heckling you here. I just like learning about these tractors and assume others do too.
 
(quoted from post at 07:13:36 06/15/16) thanks

(just assumed agricultural, because it was: blue (not yellow), had 2 cylinders to operated the steering (not one), cast front axle versus tube, bigger wheels, sits higher, etc.)

you aren't telling me there is a 3400 agricultural, industrial and utility, are you? if so, what are the differences?

bob

As Ultradog said, there was only one 3400, and it was a Utility. You can't go by the color to determine if it is a utility, an Industrial or an Ag tractor. The 3400's were made in various color schemes. Some were all yellow, some had yellow chassis and blue tin, and some might have been all blue from the factory, but I don't know for sure on that one, but most have probably been repainted at least once over the years so they are now whatever color the person that did the repaint decided to use.

Main difference between the 3000 Ag tractor and the 3400 utility tractor was the front axle. On the 3000 Ag chassis tractor the front axle was a 3 piece adjustable width setup so you could change the width of the front tire spacing for whatever width your crops were planted, while the 3400 utility had a single piece front axle that was stronger and had thicker, stronger spindles and bushings in the front axle so they stood up better to loader work.
 

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