7610 pulling an 855 baler

Fred Werring

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Don't mind mowing and raking with an open station tractor, kind of enjoy it, but really beginning to dislike the dust, noise and heat while baling.

Baling with a 398 Massey 4wd now, might go look at a 7610 2wd with a cab and ac.

7610 should have more power than the Massey, but about 1500 lbs less weight, not allowing for the cab. Pulled the baler for a couple years with a 5000, not enough power for my rolling ground, and the baler seemed to push the tractor around some, don't get that feeling with the Massey...maybe load the rear tires on the 7610 if they're not?

Supposed to have 3800 hrs, but also has a new motor, don't know why...8 x 2 tranny with dual power.

Asking $12k for it.

Figure I'll take a pressure gauge to check the hydraulics at the remotes, look at linkages and drawbar holes.

Guess I really don't have a question, don't HAVE to have it, but a guy can't have too many tractors....looking for thoughts and opinions.

Did I mention how much I dislike the dust, heat and noise while baling anymore...must be getting old or something.

Fred
 
I was always under the impression that you couldn't get a 7610 with AC. Regardless, I think the cooling system is going to be the major weakness with that tractor. Radiators plug up easily in those things, especially in grass and chaff.
 
I think the 7610 is a great tractor..... as long as it's a straddle mount open station! For cripes sake, stay clear of a 10 with a straddle cab. If you want a Ford in that class with a cab, go for the 7710 or 8210. Those have a true elevated flat floor cab. They're easier to work on, better visibility.... and you can actually clean the rad without stripping half the tractor apart...

Rod
 
(quoted from post at 22:48:38 05/19/16)


Supposed to have 3800 hrs, but also has a new motor, don't know why...8 x 2 tranny with dual power.

Asking $12k for it.
Fred

New engine probably was required from cavitation hole in cylinder wall from previous owner not keeping watch on coolant condition.

$12K isn't bad for 3800 hr tractor

I've bought a 6700 several yrs back that had a crate engine in it for reason of cavitation.
 

I know that pulling the disc cutter and baler with a 5610, I feel overloaded a bit.. but the 7710 w frontend loader, feels fine... abit the loaderweight and additional hp make it very comfortable. Suppose the longer wheel base may help... the 5610 feels like the cutter is trying to turn the tractor sideways and its barely got enough power... my 6700 cab did feel ok and fair on power... 77 series seems to just lope along, no strain, no pulling sideways. However you can feel it when you climb a hill with the big baler a bit..
 

I have a 6610 cab tractor that I pull a br7070 baler with, power and weight are not a problem even on hilly ground. It uses the same flat deck cab as a 6710 does and as long as you maintain the cab filters the ac works good.
Down side of a -610 series is the cab sets low on the chassis making it near impossible to do even simple maintenance on the trans or rear axle. With ac it was a two hour job to replace the temp sender last year.
I'm looking for a 7710 myself, the cab sets about 4-6 inches higher making to much easier to get to things like adjusting the clutch and such.
 
Guess maybe I'll hold off.

Never thought about the cab and maintenance.

Radiators plugging easily and difficult to blow out don't sound like a good combination on a hay tractor.
And sotxbill's comment about being pushed around...that's what I felt with the 5000, didn't like it.

Still going to look for a tractor...I prefer Fords, but it doesn't have to be.

Time to rig up an electric radiator fan under the awning on the Massey to blow some air on me for this year.

Thanks

Fred
 

Cleaning the radiator isn't a big deal, I clean it before I start and two or three times during spring and fall baling totaling around 800-1000 bales.
Radiator is easy to clean, take off the precleaner, raise the front nose and pop out the grill. The oil cooler and ac condenser fold out to give full access to the radiator.
Much easier to clean than my friends 2955 JD.
 

398 massey 80 pto hp, and 6960lbs...

7610 cab 87pto hp, and 7280 lbs...

so... it will do as good and probably better than what you have now. 10 series has pop off grill for easy cleaning, so you very good there. As I said, should be as good or better than you have now... plus a cab and a/c.... higher flow hydraulics, and easier steering.. Nice tractor...

by the new ratings.. using engine hp, the 7610 will be a 100 hp tractor.
 
The 56/66/7610's all use a straddle version of the Q-cab with a flattened floor in the later models.... but it's not the same cab exactly as
the 67/7710's used... as they were the 'row crop' models and as you note, had a 6-8" lift of the cab and hood along with 8-10" more
wheelbase. Those two novel little items make it a MUCH easier tractor to work on in terms of basic serviceability and heavy repair. Tractors
with straddle Q's are..... just plain hateful to work on. Add a loader and air and I'd just as soon burn them as look at them. The lowering
of the cab also seems to bugger up the shift linkages to the point that they don't shift nearly as well as a 77...

Rod
 
You're killing me :)

On vacation next week, so I know it'll rain...maybe I'll go take a look...doesn't hurt to look,
right?

Fred

PS Just ordered a 14" electric fan to mount pointing down from the awning on the massey...
 

I'd like to trade for a 7710 or 7740 but can't find one like I want with at lease three remotes and dual power. My 6610 is a late model (90) fully loaded with 3800 hrs, four remotes and a set of three year old Michelin's on the back. Yes it has a loader and it's a pain, I normally leave it off but the brackets still get in the way for maintenance.

I'll have to compare my cab to the one on my cousin's 7710.

I never noticed the 6610 radiator being any harder to clean than the other tractors.
 
To get the rad 'clean' on those things you pretty well have to get behind them and blow the crap forward. That is not easy on any of the
straddle chassis tractors but it's much worse on the ones with air. It's not too bad on the flat deck models...

The cab floors are different because of how they're mounted along with the firewall intersection. This is all due to the height issue between
the two different chassis designs.

Rod
 
RE: cleaning radiators...

First off, if you look at the parts book, a 7610 with AC has a unique radiator all to its own. I can tell you that the fin structure on that thing is very dense, and staggered as well, meaning even if it's clean, you can't see through it.

Most importantly, just because a radiator on a 7610 LOOKS clean on the outside, front and back, it does not mean it is! I once fought an overheating issue where I got the rad as clean as I possibly could with a pressure washer. Still, on the dyno, I could not keep it from getting too hot. I finally ran my hand across the face of the radiator at high idle and was surprised at how many dead spots there were.

I finally jerked the thing out (not real fun with the way those oil cooler lines are routed) and took it out to the wash rack. I spent the next 30 minutes with a pressure washer, blowing out crap from both sides. I could not believe how much grass, dirt, etc. still resided within the fin structure of that radiator. Once reinstalled, it moved a lot more air, and never even thought about getting hot.

Once again, just because a radiator on a 7610 LOOKS clean, it does not mean it is.
 

You guys are killing me... Ive got a 6600 stradlecab with a ford loader down at the ranch, and have never had to clean the radiator. But now you have me worried. And the right cowling comes of the lower dash to service around the steering box..


Since I am not leaking oil or hydraulic fluid into the radiator, guess I have dodged the bullet so far.


but it IS crowded cab, getting in or out with vrs the flat bottomed cabs.... And for an older feller with a bit of stiffness, even the steps can be a bit of a pain.

I find the lower fuel tank more of a problem in the high brush areas that we are clearing. but so far, its held up...
 
Two things about a 6600 vs 7600:

1) The radiator can pass a lot more crap straight through the fins because of the way they are configured
2) A 6600 can't be turned up like a 7600 can/is. Stated another way, most 6600s put out very close to factory rated horsepower. Most 7600s are well above, even from factory.
 

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