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bmegal

09-22-2015 10:30:00




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Hello, I'm completely new to the world of tractors and i own a small homestead. I'm looking for a small tractor to help with tilling the garden, tilling small food plots and blading the driveway.
My neighbor has a 53 Ford NAA for sale and I'm wondering if that would meet my needs. On paper it seems to have enough HP to run a 60" rotary tiller but does anyone have experience with this tractor and that size tiller? Is 4WD necessary to work with a rotary tiller?
Also, the current owner has not used the PTO, just the three point with his blade. Any watch outs that i should be looking for with this tractor?

I did some searching through the forums and I found discussions about tillers and other fords but not the NAA.
Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.
Much thanks!

Brady

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William Fissell

09-23-2015 16:46:55




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to bmegal, 09-22-2015 10:30:00  
I till all the time with a MF 35 - in 1 low it tills ok. price may be a hair more than an NAA (I have an NAA also) but will till and will also pull a plow or a disc.

The 35 cost me I think 3500 w tiller and a flail mower. Works great, no worries.

my $0.02



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Ultradog MN

09-23-2015 05:14:28




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to bmegal, 09-22-2015 10:30:00  
If you don't mind my asking, what is his asking price?
A lot of folks buy a tractor for a bit too much $ only to find out they could have gotten a lot more tractor for not much more if they had waited or looked, learned a bit more. At least you are smart to be doing your homework here.
NAAs are very good tractors but even 1 series newer are better for a few reasons and don't cost any more.
As for running a tiller; a lot of folks want to do that these days. But keep in mind that these tractors were made to use a plow and disc and do an excellent job of tillage with those implements.
I plow and disc several gardens for my cousins every year and keep my plots up too. Just an option to think about if that NAA is a very good deal. If you really think you want a tiller for your projects consider a Ford 3000 with the 8 speed transmission. It will run a tiller just fine (or a plow and disc) will come with several refinements and improvements over an NAA and wont cost much more.

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Flyguy30263

09-22-2015 15:13:25




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to bmegal, 09-22-2015 10:30:00  
I guess I shouldn't have read this thread. I've got a Jubilee and a Ford 105A 60" tiller that works just fine. Had it for several years and had no problems.



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soundguy

09-24-2015 06:41:05




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to Flyguy30263, 09-22-2015 15:13:25  
any aux trans?

what's yer soil like? straight sugar sand 8" deep or fluffed peat potting soil? ;)



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martyh

09-22-2015 17:13:47




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to Flyguy30263, 09-22-2015 15:13:25  
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You're doing 3.6mph at pto rpm. No way this is the working the way tilling is supposed to. You might be the exception that is getting away with this or maybe are satisfied with your sprint across the garden but most people would agree tilling needs to be done at a much slower speed.



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martyh

09-22-2015 17:10:06




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to Flyguy30263, 09-22-2015 15:13:25  

Flyguy30263 said: (quoted from post at 18:13:25 09/22/15) I guess I shouldn't have read this thread. I've got a Jubilee and a Ford 105A 60" tiller that works just fine. Had it for several years and had no problems.


You're doing 3.6mph at pto rpm. No way this is working the way tilling is supposed to. You might be the exception that is getting away with this or maybe are satisfied with your sprint across the garden but most people would agree tilling needs to be done at a much slower speed.
This post was edited by martyh at 17:11:21 09/22/15.

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old

09-22-2015 15:39:16




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to Flyguy30263, 09-22-2015 15:13:25  
If you have good sandy soil ya maybe it will do ok but if you have soil like say 90% of us do it will NOT work at all. I have tried it on my 841 and what a joke. Even in soil I had tilled with my Troy Built till it would not till well



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martyh

09-22-2015 11:47:18




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to bmegal, 09-22-2015 10:30:00  
In case it wasn't clear enough yet, an NAA is not suitable for tilling. lol.



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steve19438

09-22-2015 11:08:46




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to bmegal, 09-22-2015 10:30:00  
unless you like to tinker old tractors are not what you are looking for.

you want 12 volt
two stage clutch
live hyd.
pwr steering

if I were you I would buy as NEW as I could afford.

as much as I hate to say you need a john deere or kubota



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Sean in PA

09-22-2015 10:39:04




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to bmegal, 09-22-2015 10:30:00  
The NAA will be too fast, even in 1st gear, to run a PTO driven roto-tiller with the engine running at proper rpm's to obtain 540 rpm PTO speed. For a PTO driven roto-tiller you would want something newer in the Ford line-up, either a 1959+ tractor with a Select-O-Speed transmission, or a 1965+ tractor with a S-O-S, or 6 or 8 speed manual transmission and preferably live PTO if it has a manual trans.

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bmegal

09-22-2015 11:35:11




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to Sean in PA, 09-22-2015 10:39:04  
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Thanks Sean! That's definitely good to know



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old

09-22-2015 10:38:51




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to bmegal, 09-22-2015 10:30:00  
The NAA will not work with a tiller unless it has the Howard aux transmission in it and that is unlikely. Forward speeds are way to fast to run a tiller and all a tiller will do is bounce along the top of the ground in any thing but sand. You need a very slow 1st gear for a tiller so a say 2000 with the 8 speed will work but for the most part none of them before the 2000/4000 series go slow enough to do a good job

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soundguy

09-22-2015 10:37:21




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 Re: New to Tractors -- Ford NAA in reply to bmegal, 09-22-2015 10:30:00  
naa have 4 speeds.. .. and just like every other ford with under an 8 or 10 speed tranny.. it won't be good on a tiller.

it might run a small 3-4' tiller in already turned soil.. but no way no how a 6' job.

you need a machine with an 8 or 10 speed to run your tiller.

The NAA on the other hand will PLOW good.

If looking for a plowing machine.. I'd go a year later and get a 640 vs a naa. virtually identical looking and same power and capabilities.. but better rear hubs and hyds, most other things being equal.

again.. those would be plowing machines... not tilling machines.

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