Ford 800

Chance M · Aug 13, 2015

Hey guys, I'm looking at an 800. Have no idea what to pay. It isn't running, so figure an overhaul. Everything else looks great and rubber is useable. Love the hood emblem on this tractor. It is the gasser also. Thanks

Chance

showcrop · Aug 13, 2015

In good running condition good tires, straight, it will bring around $3500.00. To set a value just deduct the cost of all the repairs needed from $3500. It will be difficult to impossible with a non-runner to tell what is good and what needs work, so this takes you to the alternative valuation method which is scrap price, or 3500 lbs x $200 per ton or $350.00. Look at a lot of them on eBay before you fall in love with one.

Chance M · Aug 13, 2015

Ok, thanks.

Why do you say that, lol? Are they not real desirable tractor?

Chance

Sean in PA · Aug 13, 2015

800 is not an individual model, it is a series of tractors. There were multiple models within the 800 series, 820, 830, 840, 850 & 860. The middle digit of the individual model numbers tells you what transmission, PTO and 3 point options they had.

820 - 4 speed trans with no 3 point hydraulics and no PTO.
830 - 4 speed trans with 3 point hydraulics but no PTO.

All of the rest below have 3 point hydraulics AND PTO, but the type of PTO varies.

840 - 4 speed trans with transmission driven (non-live) PTO
850 - 5 speed trans with transmission driven (non-live) PTO
860 - 5 speed trans with live PTO

With all of that being said, for a non-runner with everything else "looking good" I still wouldn't pay much over scrap price, unless the tires are better than 75% tread and not checked or dry rotted, and then I would go over scrap by whatever I think the tires might be worth. The price of tires has come back down a little recently so I would have to check around to see what I might be willing to value any particular set at these days.

Dean · Aug 13, 2015

The Ford 8** tractors are both useable and marketable but it is not possibly to effectively evaluate condition of a non runner.

Absent desireable options, e,g, pie weights, hydraulic remote valve(s), etc., I draw the line at around $500 for a non runner.

Dean

showcrop · Aug 13, 2015

(quoted from post at 05:28:27 08/13/15)
Ok, thanks.

Why do you say that, lol? Are they not real desirable tractor?

Chance

A Ford 800 is VERY desirable. It is very useable compared to other brands because of the hydraulics and 3 point. It is desirable compared to others because not everyone has one, yet it is very good for restoring because parts are easy to get. Just don't fall in love with the first one. Shop around.

Tiger Joe · Aug 13, 2015

In my area, most running/workable 800 series are advertised for 2500+, with the higher price sometimes including implements. however, most of them are also still for sale.

I'd say of all the 800s I see in this area, probably 75% are 5 speeds with non live PTO- 850. The other 25% is split pretty evenly between 860s and 840s. Actually, over the past 6 months, I only saw 1 confirmed 860 for sale on clist, and I bought it, though most ppl just say 5 speed and don't list if its live power or not.

Does the motor turn over or is it locked up? I'd pay slightly more for a motor that spins over.

usable tires with a locked motor- 500
might add 100-150 if the tires are really nice.
motor spins but doesn't run- I might go up to 800 or so.

Like other said, if it has a pie weights, or a remote valve, add value accordingly

old · Aug 13, 2015

Why figure on a an over haul just because it is not running?? Could be as simple as a tune up or carb rebuild. On one like that you trouble shoot then parts NEVER the other way around. Most of the tractor I have did not run when I got them but most drove off the trailer I hauled them home on

dmbinva · Aug 13, 2015

In general tires are the big difference in price , non running 1** series $500 take away or add too for the condition of the tires

souNdguy · Aug 13, 2015

non runner? 500$ with average tires that hold air.

maybe 750$ with new rubber and ok rims all around..

non runner may mean trashed block, rusted tranny and blown hyds.. IE. scrap metal weight you have to haul in to get your money back out of it.

On the other hand, may mean a bad 25 cent insulator in the side of the distribuitor.

we need more info..

sotxbill · Aug 13, 2015

I think what they are saying is.....you can very easily spend 3500 on a total engine overhaul and still have a worn out transmission and rearend, and need $700 more in tires.

Or you can buy a good working tractor that runs, has good tires and even fair paint for around $3200 and be dollars ahead.

da.bees · Aug 14, 2015

I pretty much agree with what others are saying about pricing a non-runner. I kinda go on the assumption if it only needs a battery,fluids and a tune up they would have done it to get more money out of it. Being a detective helps a bunch. Figuring out how the tractor wound up parked is half the battle. I once bought a barn stored early 4000 with less than 1k hours on it. Owner died, widow leased the ranch land out but lived in the house then kids did the same for several years until they decided to sell the place. I paid $3,600 at auction and considered it a bargain. I wouldn't have gone over $1500 based on appearance alone without knowing it wasn't parked as the result of over heating or somthing.
As far as the tractor that started this thread,I would be impressed the medalion was still on the hood since most have been lost for 40 years.LOL

NoNewParts · Aug 14, 2015

guess it depends on your area
There are no $500 or less tractors here, especially Fords.
Green moss covered fence row tractor with a stuck engine,
or large hole in its side...with flat tires...maybe you could approach $500.....
naw..scratch that..forgot its an 800 series..not happenin.

posted recently about the ratty 850 I had with a broken rod.
after teardown and removing the sleeve and broken parts..block under sleeve was heavily damaged.....junk
swapped the good tires off for some 'well they hold air' tires and traded it to a local tractor jockey..as it was, partially dis-assembled roller.
He got around a $1000 for it I think.(guess somebody needed that 5-speed and big rear very badly)

Chance M · Aug 14, 2015

Thanks for all the replies. Valuable info here.

I assume the worst until I actually catch the owner at home is why I say overhaul. As well, an old machine I restore I would prolly freshen it regardless, to bring back its former glory, unless he tells me it's been overhauled and just needs a batt. But, by the looks of it I'd say it's been a while since it's been gone through. If I'm gonna change all seals and gaskets, it's gettin some new liners and cans at the least. Cuz it needs seals and gaskets, I detect...

I'm excited now! My M build is coming near completion. I'm gonna catch this guy and see what series 800 this is. Got my fingers crossed for the 3-point and independent pto!!!

I don't care a lot for the 8n. I don't know a lot about fords period. But, for some reason this 800 series machine just has that something that caught my eye. It appears to be a lil bigger and stronger looking than an 8n?? Been a while since I've seen an n though.

Also prayin the tranny is in workin condition. Might be a deal killer for me if has major tranny issues.

I did notice on eBay that lot of the parts I'm seein are cheaper than IH parts!

Again, thanks for all your time and wish me luck. Sorry for rambling, just a lil anxious.

Chance

Brendon Warren · Aug 14, 2015

I bought one yesterday. Steering box is messed up. The guy said
it ran until he tore it apart to fix but gave up. It has brand
new rims and tires on the back. 5spd no power steering. I paid a
1000 with a Dearborn post hole digger. Hopefully going to pick it
up today. I'll get some pics. I don't think I can get hurt on it.

tractorguy2 · Aug 14, 2015

Two years a go I watched a non running 1954 NAA with four
rotten tires and bad rear rims bring $1800.

phil_n · Aug 14, 2015

What about the S-O-S tranny versions? I'm no expert but I've heard others mention that an S-O-S may be a concern for the "back-yard mechanic".

Bob in Tennessee · Aug 14, 2015

Well Said Old

old · Aug 14, 2015

Thanks

old · Aug 14, 2015

The 800 series did not have any of the SOS transmission in them. The SOS did not come out till the 801 series and if I remember right it was 1959 when the first one of those came out

old · Aug 14, 2015

So fill in the blank what transmission does it have?? Only transmission I know of in a ford that is likely to be trouble is the SOS and they did not come out in the 800 series

beastlybirdie · Aug 15, 2015

I picked an 860 up a couple months ago for $1000. Runs great, good oil pressure, new tires and rims on back, new exhaust, and a back blade. It has a bad release bearing, so I have to split it. Around here, running and moving 850s go for $2500, 860s around 3000-3500, so I'm quite happy.

Chance M · Aug 15, 2015

(quoted from post at 06:21:34 08/14/15) I bought one yesterday. Steering box is messed up. The guy said
it ran until he tore it apart to fix but gave up. It has brand
new rims and tires on the back. 5spd no power steering. I paid a
1000 with a Dearborn post hole digger. Hopefully going to pick it
up today. I'll get some pics. I don't think I can get hurt on it.

Sounds like a good deal. The tires and wheels alone....nice find

Goes for you to beastley!

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