I found a rops for sale on cl, and on the tag it tell all the tractors that it will work on. I have a 74 4000 all purpose. The tag list that it will fit a 4600 and 4600 su. The seller said that it will fit a 4000, but he does not on a 4000, he has a 3610. It will not fit his tractor. If it will fit a 4600, will it fit a 4000.
 
I would venture a guess of "yes it will fit" Based on this model, that axle housing does not seem to have changed over the years on the 4000 model and up, so you would think it would be a match. If it has a data tag on it, is there a manufacturer listed? If so, maybe you can look them up if still in business, confirming whether its suitable for your 4000. Given its specifically engineered for certain models, it might be nice to confirm it with the manufacturer, on the other side, its a fair guess based on what you posted, it could bolt right up.

3000 and up has a different rear axle with dry/drum brakes than the 4000 and up which has wet brakes and a much different rear differential and axle housings.
 
I can not read what the co. name is. But the co was in MI. This is what the tag said it will fit.
2810,2910,3910,(8250 lbs)340a,340b,420,515,540,540a,540b,540b, 335,35501,4400(9600lbs)
4100,4600su,532,4110,4140su,4600,4610su(9250lbs)
 
It does not mention a 4000, but it mite fit, and it mite not. I hope it will fit he want $400.00 and that is a good price. Plus a five hour drive. It has a canopy on it to.
 
If it will fit a 4600 and 4600 SU but it won't fit a 3610 it is all but certain to fit your 4000.
 
Yes, it will fit. All the models listed are 3-cylinder models with double reduction axles. It won't fit his tractor because his has a single reduction axle.
 
Might be making more to this then needed, LOL! it happens every so often, bear with me, but I see your concern with the distance involved. We have an '80 3600, with no rops and I recently bought a '97 4630, in a sense, the last of the 4000 series. It has a fold down rops with a tag that states what tractors its for, built at the "rebadged" ford plant, New Holland U.K. Ltd Basildon England, For Tractors (Max Wt.Lbs) 3430, 3930, 4130, 4630, 5030.

Complies OSHA 1928-52, SAE J2194, CSA B352-1

So if the one you are looking at does not fit the 3610, but fits the 3910, that part is beyond me without research to find what would make these models different for fitting a ROPS to them as your tag states it will fit a 4600 and the heavier industrial models. The models they fit on and are certified for, to protect the operator, are certainly listed for a reason. That does not answer your question if it will fit a 4000 model.

Not sure if this manufacturer is still in business but if you can somehow come up with a name to research, a part number or any other identifying information, maybe it can be cross referenced or confirmed to be correct for your tractor both fit and weight. The fact that these were designed/engineered for specific models does raise a point that you must have the correct one for the tractor to know it will perform as designed. That along with a seat with a belt to strap the operator in is designed to safely protect the operator. Its good to know what is installed has been engineered at least, good to look it over to see if its compromised in any way too.

The only other thing I can think of is to measure center to center of each bolt hole at the axle flange connection of the rops bar, (see diagram below) in the direction it spans across the rear axle, from one side to the other, as well as the much shorter dimension front to back of the holes on the rops bottom flange to see if it fits over the axle housing on the 4000. If he has the bottom plates and the u bolts with it, there's your template. The axle housing is ribbed for this reason, and for structural reasons if I understand correctly. So if something is off or it is a match, measuring might be the only option if the MFR is no longer around or there's just no way to identify the one you are looking at. I can't get a measurement off my 4630 accurately with its ROPS installed and its really not the right thing to do, assuming, based on the similarities of say the 4000,4600, 4610, 4630 etc. It would still be nice to know its correct for the model its going on, based on the engineering done for that same model.

Above I stated the 3000 and up, well cut that off at the 3600 on that rear axle. These 2 models at least, are not the same as a 4000, at the rear axle, and with the numerous models produced, ones listed on your tag, its confusing unless you know each one. 3910 is derived from the 3610, just newer, repeat back to the 3600, then 3000, both of which have drum brakes, maybe the 3910 got the other type of rear end, with wet brakes, and that would make sense given the housings appear to be the same for many groups of models including the 4000.

Thinking about it, making a mountain out of a mole hill in theory here may not answer this question, but if were me, I'd do the research to find out who built this one if at all possible, and see if it was designed for a 4000 or can be confirmed to work on the earlier model regardless as the 4600 followed the 4000 and should have the same rear end with improvements. I don't know if any dimensions changed with improvements and the 4000 its not listed on the manufacturer tag on yours. There is a bottom plate and the big U bolts, all of those need to be correct and as called for by the design. I think its fair to make a statement like this because its a life safety feature of the tractor. Overkill, redundant, but when it comes to safety, never guess.
CNH Parts Diagram of 4000 ROPS
 
LOL! thats what I was looking for..., he should be good to go then as the tag certainly allows for enough weight.
 
Thanks guys. I am going to call him. And buy it, because I need it for bush hoging or pulling a disc. I will put a seat belts on it, my blood pressure drops some time, and one of these days I am going to pass out.
 
(reply to post at 16:27:25 07/26/15) So if the one you are looking at does not fit the 3610, but fits the 3910, that part is beyond me without research to find what would make these models different for fitting a ROPS to them

Billy - the 3610 had the single reduction rear axle with the dry outboard brakes like all of the earlier 3xxx models, but the 3910 (and 3930) had the double reduction rear axle with the inboard wet brakes like the 4xxx models.
 

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