6 cylinder swap hundred series concern

Redhunter2486 · Jul 21, 2015

I have an early (4 cyl) 4000 with a tired engine, I've read about the concerns of putting an old inline 6 in front of a select-o-speed as examplified in the old 6000, but could a 4 or 5 speed tranny handle a 215 or 223? After loooking around locally the old inline 6's are a lot cheaper/ easier found than the 192, 200, or even another stock 172. Thanks!

cdmn · Jul 21, 2015

First, if your engine hasn't thrown a rod through the block, it is relatively inexpensive to overhaul. For substitute engines, most guys use a V6 or V8 so that the tractor doesn't stretch out so far. You'll need some sort of sub-frame to connect front axle perch to the bell-housing, and you'll need a governor. Lots have been built for show. Doubt if they work very well. I wonder how hard it would be to install a 3 cylinder?

Redhunter2486 · Jul 21, 2015

Thanks for those tips! The engine is still running well enough to use, I have a parts tractor with a cracked block too. I guess I just figured if going through the hassle to rebuild one anyways why not upgrade? If if has to be governed down to 50 horsepower anyways I might just spend the couple extra bucks to get another 4 cyl. And on the point of why have the extra motor laying around, I just don't enjoy turning a wrench as much when I have to, sounds weird probably, but the longer the machine is unusable the more frustrated I get working on it, my uses for the tractor are more hobby than practical.

Dean · Jul 21, 2015

The S-O-S transmission was used in 6000s and 5000s. If in decent shape, it is more than adequate for a 215 or 223 6 cylinder engine.

Dean

Redhunter2486 · Jul 21, 2015

I was hoping you would contribute Dean! I have just heard people say the 6000 was prone to failure, I have no 1st hand experience with it or the SOS, do you think the rearend/4speed tranny of a stock 4000 would hold up to an inline 215 or 223?

Ultradog MN · Jul 22, 2015

I don't think the engine out of a 6000
would have the Cam gear and casting for
adding the hydraulic pump. So in addition
to needing to do a lot of contrapting
to fit the engine and tin you'd have to
belt drive a pump and add the lines.

Dean · Jul 22, 2015

The 8** series rear axles and four speed transmissions were used on Ford industrial tractors of the era with FELs and back hoes. Both are more than adequate for your plans.

Dean

Redhunter2486 · Jul 22, 2015

(quoted from post at 08:02:43 07/22/15) The 8** series rear axles and four speed transmissions were used on Ford industrial tractors of the era with FELs and back hoes. Both are more than adequate for your plans.

Dean

That's a good point ultra, thanks for you input Dean

sunbeam · Jul 22, 2015

IF you found a free 223 the swap would cost more than a rebuild.

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