Ford 2000 brakes adjustment

ok I have new shoes on the 2000, the rod that goes from the transmission to the ends of the brake shoes that turn the shoes out to stop you are loose. I took the clevis pin out of the adjustment going to the pedal in hopes of getting some of the twist out of the shaft so it would tighten up ........I just figured out you cannot take up all the twist with the linkage. So if I tighten the brakes with the drum on why does it have so much slop in the shaft that goes between the ends of the brake shoes? I am lost on this. The shaft that goes between the shoes has alot of slop in between the two ends of the brake shoes. Are the shoes the wrong ones? It all looks right except where the rectangle piece goes between the ends of the shoes. why is it so loose?

Does this make sense.........

Scott
 
"Does this make sense........." No.

Have you adjusted the brakes using the star wheel between the shoes?

You must tighten the adjuster (star wheel) until there is a slight drag as you turn the drum.

Dean
 
(quoted from post at 17:43:23 05/12/15) "Does this make sense........." No.

Have you adjusted the brakes using the star wheel between the shoes?

You must tighten the adjuster (star wheel) until there is a slight drag as you turn the drum.

Dean


Dean, where the wheel cylinder would be if it had hydaulic brakes is what I am talking about. The rectangle piece that moves the shoe to stop you when you step on the brake. It has alot of movement. I am wondering if the guy I got the tractor from got the wrong brake shoes. I can take a pipe wrench and turn the shaft and that moves the whole assembly up to where you cannot hook the brake pedal rod up.......am I not tightening the shoes up enough in the drum?
 
I read your post earlier and did not understand it either.
But my thoughts were the same as Dean's;
Did you take a large screw driver or brake adjusting tool and adjust the star wheel?
You adjust them through the slot in the backing plate.
Also, though in this case it doesn't matter as the brakes on both tractors are nearly identical but you should always mention which 2000 you have. The 62=64 4 cylinder model or the 65-75 3 cylinder model.
 
"[A]m I not tightening the shoes up enough in the drum?" Apparently not.

Have you adjusted the shoes using the star wheel?

Dean
 
did anyone mention the star wheel adjuster? ;)

Any way the drums could've worn beyond service limits where the shoes won't contact? I've seen older drum brake atvs do that - I always fixed them by shimming the cam eccentric to bring the shoes farther out.
 
it is the later 3 cyl diesel......


here is what I am asking............I hope.......I cannot get a image to load up......

the rod that comes from the transmission that moves the brake shoes out is rectangle ended so as you step on the pedal it forces the shoes out to make it stop........

Mine has a lot of slop in that.......the brake shoes don't touch the rectangle piece in normal position.........so it takes a lot of turn on the shaft to ever open the shoes.....can the shoes be put on wrong? I have tightened them up with the star to where you can not turn turn the brake drum. The shaft where it goes thru the back brake of the plate is loose meaning it can move up and down.........does this help explain........

Scott
 
pic is worth a thousand words. I'd think if the star wheel is adjusted so you can feel the drag of the shoes - almost can't turn the drum, then the end of the shoes that is supposed to rest on the square shaft should be pressed firmly against the flats. If that still wiggles and you can barely turn the drum, I'd think that the shoes are hung up on something by that shaft.

You don't have them on backwards do you? The parts exploded view doesn't look like that's possible

http://partstore.agriculture.newholland.com/us/parts-search.html#epc::mr64888ar235172
 


I can only assume the piece is worn and no longer sized correctly at the top where it meets the shoes, or the shoes are wrong, or installed incorrectly. you should be able to get the pedal play down to 1.5 inches before the brakes start to engage.

As others said, you do adjust the star wheel at the bottom to tighten up the slack. Are you sure you have the correct shoes?
 
I'm not sure what the difference is, but the parts site shows that they used different part numbers for the shoes on the 3 cylinder 2000's at different times. It's showing that for tractors made before December 1, 1966 the part number is C5NN2218E and for tractors made from that date forward the part number is F2NN2218AA. I assume that they used a different part number originally that started with C6NN at the point that they switched, as the F2NN at the beginning of the currently listed part number indicates it was first used in 1992, but I'm guessing that part number superseded whatever earlier part number was that they used.

Is it possible that your tractor was made before December 1, 1966 and you got the later more common part number shoes? Or is it possible that you got shoes for a 4 cylinder 2000 instead of for a 3 cylinder model?
 

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