Dad blast it! 601/641 tractor oil

Bruce(OR)

Well-known Member
Yeah. bringing this dead horse subject up again. Reading the archives, checking with suppliers and past breaking
the bank this month. Oil spec of M 4864 A oil. New Holland is willing to go 134D for $64. I believe that 641
tractor uses 5&1/2 gallons. The local oil supplier with a former Ford tractor mechanic is talking GL-1 90W for
$52.
The local auto parts store has the 303 No thanx fluid and that GL-1 is starting to look good from here.
Need to get this machine sold off so i can get busy with other toys around here asap.
Any suggestions? Experience?
Next machine that needs oil will be the 881D with the SOS.
 
Most "303" labelled oils do not say that they meet the M2C134D spec. 303 was a JD spec that only called for lubricating and hydraulic properties, not the additional anti-slip properties needed by wet brakes and clutches, so it should be fine for a 641, but not for a S-O-S.

$62.00 almost seems like a bargain. Real New Holland branded 134D oil was going for almost $75.00 the last time I checked, which was almost a year ago, so I guess that it came down with the other petroleum prices recently.

Tractor Supply carries a UTF called "Travellers Universal Tractor/Trans Hydraulic Fluid" that does meet the M2C134D spec, and it's right around $40.00 for a 5 gallon pail these days, maybe less with the recent price drops in the petroleum market, and it goes on sale a couple times a year for about $5.00 less. My local Pep Boys and Advanced Auto also carry their own generic UTF brands that say on the label that they meet the 134D spec, but they are usually 2 or 3 dollars more than Tractor Supply.
 
No gl1

Hit a Walmart or farm store, or Napa, car quest or orilies, and get store brand utf that meets m2c134

Usually about 25-40$
 
I did a complete fluid change on my 850 in '12, and I think it was under $200, most if not all I got from TSC. I did use 90 wt in the rear and trans, as I don't believe my inner seal was leaking, judging from checking the hydraulic dip stick.
 
M2C134 (or M2C134D, mostly, current era) is what matters. I've used Wallys, TSCs, and some from the auto parts store. If you have an old parts book with an old fluid spec, on many of the 134D UTFs you'll find that older number as well, down in the fine print.

If you want it in a jug that also says New Holland, it costs about double. Some folks think there's a difference other than the size of the dent in your wallet - I'm not one. If it meets spec it meets spec. Parts I have to buy from NH are expensive enough to keep them afloat, no need to overspend on oil.
 
Thank you one and all. I finally wound up down at Schucks/OReilly auto and got a bucket of UTF showing the ESNM2C134-C/D along with JD 303 and two dozen others. They were willing to meet wally world prices and set me back just over $$42.
 

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