Ford 4000 Update

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Still the loader to finish, and a few small things here and there, but she's back up and running with a facelift.

Very nice looking tractor, and very useful. You seem to have done a nice job. I have a similar tractor, few years older, same loader and
front axle but mine has a 4 speed /Sherman over/under. I find a lot of uses for it around the property moving logs, dirt, and gravel. Also
came in handy when tearing the roof off our porch.

Nice machine! -Will

Wow, that looks great. I do like that blue/cream color scheme. That looks like it was a lot of work!

Thank you both, It was a lot of little parts here and there and a lot of running parts down.

She was a good running tractor until we had a failure in the Rear Main, Since it was coming apart to fix that, decided to give her a face-lift at the same time, its a long ways from a professional repaint/restore, but she looks good enough for us.

If it dries up soon we will be in the garden with the tiller soon.

Looks real good.
Moving the front tires forward on those light industrials makes the tractor look stouter than their ag sisters.
How did you pick the yellow?
I think yours is a little too brown as far as original goes.
I'm not knocking it mind you.
Mine is a little too yellow.
Probably somewhere in between the two of them is "correct".
I might as well reply to your post above while I'm at it here.
Cant help you with the valence. I've messed with a few of Ken's priors but never got into them like I have the 3 hole Fords.

Here is the color on mine.



The Buff we painted Ken's 2000 is probably the closest to original.
His rims should have been yellow too.

It's VanSickle "Light Ford Grey 'Pre-65' " My boy picked the color.

We had seen a few with the Buff that was way too yellow, and he liked that color better, since it will be his one day, decided to go with it, I'm pleased with the result.

That and they didn't have a 'buff' color in stock at our farm store... made the choice easier...

Still have a drip on my power steering to chase down, and see why my alternator isn't charging properly, its an old alternator, may just be time for a new one, its all new wiring and new ends on the wires, will check for a short though and see what I find.

The headlights aren't 'correct' either, but they look good and I can see, until we get the loader redone and installed, it was my opinion, better to be able to see than be correct.

Had to run a short ground wire to my fender mount from the parking brake bracket, I guess too much paint lost the ground for the tail light to work...

And I have to get a different draw bar bracket, this one is too short, puts the bar in a bind and makes it point slightly upward.
And I twisted off one bolt putting it on... dang battery impact...

And I'm still looking at cutting up a 600 grille to get the lower grill portion with the slot in it to protect the radiator when we brush hog until the loader is fixed...

All in All, I'm pleased with the work on it, and it should last a good long time, especially since it now has a home inside the barn or carport, something I know it hasn't had in the 8 years we have had it, and the 15 years the PO had it....

Now to finish the AC Lawn Tractor Restore, Dad's 2N Paint/Tune-up and start on my boy's Mustang... The list was supposed to get shorter right?

Oh and its mushroom season now, so not getting much of anything done atm... and soon it will be time to work on mowing, garden, food plots... What I wouldn't give to be retired so I didn't have to work all day before I start on all this other stuff...

And one of these days we will have to get new rear tires... maybe after the Mustang is done...

And some new decals... maybe, I like the look of the faded ones for now, they give it that, 'Yes I had a paint job, but I am still just and Old tractor look.'

I think they're never done.
My 4400 still needs the tach hooked up, new exhaust manifold, redo the tail pipe, some tweaking on the hydraulics, put the drawbar hanger on, finish the foot throttle and if I ever get around to it, get the temp and fuel gauges to work.
Probably more but that's off the top of my head.
Then you get to run the snot out of them for about 10 years and start all over again.
My 3000 needs a bunch of small things done to it again.

You wish you were retired and didn't have to work all day, so you could work all day... :lol:

I do like the lights but I was wondering about the loader, looking forward to seeing that when you are done with it too. I also was looking at the battery mount, I didn't know the industrials were that different.

What year Mustang are you going to be working on?

He recently acquired a 66 Coupe, its not bad, but needs body/frame work, and a complete sand down and paint.



Will be fine tuning our paint gun techniques on Dad's 2N...

I have to replace 1 frame rail, floor pans and rear quarter panels. Normal rust for an Illinois car that is 50+ years old. Thankfully we don't have any out of pocket money in the car itself, we traded a camper which we had used a LOT 10+ years ago when the kids were young, but hadn't used at all the last 3 or 4 years for the car... and they make reproduction repair parts for basically the entire car... won't be show quality, but it will be an excellent first car for him.

Ultradog I do like that buff on the 2000, if that were available at our store we might have had a harder choice to make, it looks very close to the color we found on the underside of the dash, and would have been a good choice as well.

(quoted from post at 16:57:57 04/20/15) And one of these days we will have to get new rear tires... maybe after the Mustang is done...

And some new decals... maybe, I like the look of the faded ones for now, they give it that, 'Yes I had a paint job, but I am still just and Old tractor look.'

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Hi
Great restoration you have there !!!

I am working on a farmers 1964 FORD 4000 w/ select-O-speed.
( possibly a 'Jubalee"It Looks just like your blue one, has same instrument cluster, looks as same side carb mount and exact looking distributor side as your.

I have been looking for some place to check transmission oil, ? Possible a side plug to check or a dip stick if any and where's the cap/plug to fill with tranny fluid ?

Do I use regular standard tractor hydrolice oil OR high grade automatic transmission oil ? or something different ?

Hoping for a reply... Have done some maintenance and repairs, etc. on car/truck, this tractor work is all new to me.

Thanks
~ Oro

In front of the right side running board there is a plug that goes into the side of the transmission, that is where you check level.

Any Universal Trans/Hyd fluid that meets the Ford/New Holland 134D standard will work. It will tell you what standards it meets on the back side label.

A Jubilee would have a round emblem in the center section of the hood, where mine has the chrome piece instead, and would not have the blue grille, as the Jubilee grill is a ribbed metal one piece grille with lower slotted panel attached.

Best way to tell exactly what you have is on the left side, the transmission housing right above the starter there is a flat spot where the model and serial number are located.

Your model number should be one of the following:
41204
41205
41206
41207
41304
41305
41306
41307
Depending on your front axle and PTO options.

Serial # should be over 38931

Thats if its a 64 4000

I like your son's choice of color. I've got a 3400 that's supposed to be yellow/buff and blue. I figured I'd repaint it in the blue and white of a standard AG 3000 but once I shot the motor I realized - that's alot of blue, smurf blue, blue that makes you say "wow! that's blue!"

So I was going to shoot the fenders and rims in that same "light ford gray" (got 1/2 gallon left from doing the 9N).

UD is right, his might be too yellow - but it's growing on me. I'll have to see if I can hunt down a Yellow/Gray compromise at the hardware store - I'm sure they'll mix something up for me.

I'm hoping I'll soon be able to add my pics to this thread.

Nice work!

(quoted from post at 16:55:32 04/21/15) In front of the right side running board there is a plug that goes into the side of the transmission, that is where you check level.

Any Universal Trans/Hyd fluid that meets the Ford/New Holland 134D standard will work. It will tell you what standards it meets on the back side label.

A Jubilee would have a round emblem in the center section of the hood, where mine has the chrome piece instead, and would not have the blue grille, as the Jubilee grill is a ribbed metal one piece grille with lower slotted panel attached.

Best way to tell exactly what you have is on the left side, the transmission housing right above the starter there is a flat spot where the model and serial number are located.

Your model number should be one of the following:
41204
41205
41206
41207
41304
41305
41306
41307
Depending on your front axle and PTO options.

Serial # should be over 38931

Thats if its a 64 4000

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Thanks very much for the Info.

Will have to go to the farm tomorrow and take a look see, to locate that tranny fill plug. Will look for the ID numbers you posted for me. Thanks...

I did look on both sides a few days ago, but not wanting to start pulling bolts off
to check, thought I'd ask here first.

There is ONE large bolt (about 1") with a large screw in the center of bolt, one on each sides of the tranny. Did not want to touch those, as they looks like some kind of adjustment, possible for the tranny interior.

I also need to check on tranny fluid lines and see if they go to the radiator for cooling. And ... if they don't enter the radiator... then what ?

After reading @ "My Ford Tractor" web site. Was able to ID the tractor best I could as the 'Jubilee.' Tractor pics included.

It's a neglected dirty old beast. I did spray that purple cleaner on it and blasted it down with the garden hose, looks better but needs a presser washing job.
My job is to get all the old neglected things in good shape and keep it running.

Just rebuilt the carb, bent & shaped a new solid gas line from tank to sediment bowl.. that was a #@^^%#$ job !!, New coil/points/condenser/plugs/rotor/cap,
The owners not concerned with total restoration and/or paint.

Looking for > A special bolt that goes "inside" the power steering oil reservoir ( possible a hollow bolt ? ) that holds down the ( apprx. 3.5 x 1.5" ) power steering oil filter. Some one before me lost it.


U said: "Depending on your front axle and PTO options."
It's an adjustable front axle, two pieces with bolts hold them together. It pivoting on a central front bushing. See pics.

Thanks again...
~ Oro

My pics did not post. New to forum, trying again

64frd, I noticed last night that Dennis Carpenter has a lower front sheet metal piece for your tractor. Perhaps it is what you are looking for.

I believe you have an 801 series tractor.
Your SOS trany was not available on the earlier models.
HTH
Keith

I tried to post yesterday, but the site was giving me issues, that I found repops of those lower grill pieces on Walts and the Just 8N's sites by a Google search. Just search on the part number, which is C3NN8190A.

The egg crate grill is not from a Jubilee, its from a 801 821 841 851 861 901 941 951 981, also the SOS was first used in 1957, and Jubilee was only made from 52' to 54'

The Model and Serial are still in the same location, but they will be different from a 4000.

Looks to still be a 6v system, which means its probably still a Pos ground system, you need to do a search of the forum about polarizing your generator if the battery has been dead for a long time.

If you start a new thread you can get tons of help from the guys that work on the XX1 series tractors here.

The one on Dennis Carpenter is only available through a full hood purchase, won't sell seperately, I called.

Thanks Sean, still don't know if I want to spend $100 on a piece I'm going to eventually have to cut a hole in.

I would like to leave it in place when I put the bucket on. May just see what I can fine in the way of a 600 style grille, will have to check the salvage yards if I can pick up a grille with a broken top section cheap I'll probably still go that route, if not, I will most definitely order one of those and just take it off when the loader goes on.

Its worth it to not have to worry about the radiator when brush hogging. I have had to replace one in the past because of that piece not being there.

(quoted from post at 06:20:55 04/22/15) The one on Dennis Carpenter is only available through a full hood purchase, won't sell seperately, I called.

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It is offered separately in an ad in the spring issue of the N-news letter. Page 29, part no. C3NN-8190-A for $97.95

that bolt is just a bent steel spring. you can probably make one yourself.

(quoted from post at 19:11:26 04/22/15) that bolt is just a bent steel spring. you can probably make one yourself.

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@ William Fissell
Are you referring to my post ? pasted below

" Looking for > A special bolt that goes "inside" the power steering oil reservoir ( possible a hollow bolt ? ) that holds down the ( apprx. 3.5 x 1.5" ) power steering oil filter. Some one before me lost it."

If so, not quite sure what you mean by using a spring ( bent spring) in place of a threaded bolt.
The hole that resieves the bolt is threaded, bolt goes through the filter and then screws into the base at a slit angle to hold the filter in place. I haven't found any diagrams YET, as to how the PS oil travels through the pump and into the filter. ( the oil cycle. )

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