Tractor ID Numbers

JWA

Member
Is the numbering system the same for a 3000 manufactured in England the same as U.S. Manufactured?
I have looked on this site, the FO-31 manual, Tractor Data.com, and Oak Tractor.com and I can't decipher the numbers from my 3000 diesel. Maybe I'm missing something.Any help will be appreciated. The numbers stamped on the the boss behind the starter are as follows.
6C9B
C226
B822751
The number stamped on the boss on the right side of the engine rail just above the oil pan is D208416.
I really need to know exactly what I have for parts ID as well as my own satisfaction. Thanks.
 
6C9B is the Unit Number, or Production Code, and it says that it was made on March 9, 1966 during the day shift.

B822751 is a Basildon UK serial number. It looks like it could be a 1966 export serial number.

C226 is not a production number, serial number or a model number. On early ones they did put the transmission production code on that same flat spot, so it might be a partial trans production code.

The model number of a 1966 3000 diesel would be 3101xx where the xx at the end would tell you which PTO and hydraulics options it has.

Post the raised casting number on the right side of the engine block, up higher than the stamped number that you posted. It should look something like C5NN6015xx. The casting number can tell us what engine it has.

Post some pictures as well so we can tell from visual cues if it is indeed a 3000 or might be something different.
 
Sean, thanks for the reply. The engine casting number is C7NN6015. It has the Simms injector pump and dual fuel filters which I understand make it an early model. Also the louvered hood side panels which I understand is an indicator of the early model. The headlights are in the lower grill and on the 8 speed transmission decal the ground speeds are indicated in KPH which I believe point to a British tractor. I will try to post photos tomorrow.
 
Are there any letters after the C7NN6015 on the engine casting number? They should always have a single or double letter at the end.

Seems like you've got a bit of a "frankentractor" there.The C7 at the beginning of the engine casting number indicates the casting was designed in 1967, and the Unit number stamped into the transmission indicates the transmission left the factory on a 1966 tractor, so it's either a 1967 or later tractor with a transmission transplant from a 1966 tractor, or it's a 1966 tractor with an engine transplant from a 1967 or later tractor.

Headlights in the grill is a European made tractor. Serial number starting with B definitely indicates the Basildon, UK plant.

Post some pictures please. Grill, Front axle and steering, and rear axle.
 
There are no letters following the engine casting number. Didn't get a chance to post photos today,will try tomorrow. Is there a record available of the British serial numbers as we have for the U.S. numbers? If so,where would you find them?
 
The only thing I could find via Google for that casting number with no trailing letters was for a 4000 201 ci gas engine. Also, that "D" at the beginning of the D208416 stamped on the engine indicates that it is a "New" model 4000 engine as well. Odd that it should have a Simms pump, since all 4000's came from the factory with the CAV pump. It's sounding more and more like it was a 1966 3000 tractor that had a post-1967 engine from a 4000 transplanted to it, and they kept the pump and drive gears from the 3000 engine when they did the transplant.

There is no complete record of the British or Belgian serial numbers that I am aware of like there is for the American made tractors. I did recently find a reference to starting numbers for the "New" models of the European tractors. It was the European version of the service manual update for the "New" models, with "New" meaning the models with the changes that they made on August 1, 1968, with the new sheet metal with the inset grill and smooth hood sides, plus the upgrade form the 192 CI engine to the 201 for the gasoline 4000, and the addition of the 7000 to the lineup, and all of the other things that changed on that date, including changing the series designations at the beginning of the model number from a number to a letter.

Here is what that reference says for the approximate starting serial numbers (looks like I got it backwards when I said yours looked like an export s/n. It is actually a UK domestic s/n) Note there was no differentiation for domestic vs. export for the Antwerp s/n's:

Basildon:
-Domestic - B851094
-Export - B088752

Antwerp - A168001

Those are the approximate starting serial numbers for the "New" models, which means April 1, 1968. So I would imagine that the starting serial numbers for the 1965 model runs would have been somewhere around:

Basildon:
----Domestic - B800001
----Export - B000001

Antwerp - A100001

But those are only guesses. You could extrapolate and make educated guesses for later years as well, but I'm sure the production run numbers from year to year were not completely consistent.
 

We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today.

Back
Top