Have a Ford 3600 was using it to move some hay. Shut it down for a minute, came back and it wont crank (starter doesn't do anything). Battery is good as lights work and the alt light does come on when turning the key. Did this once a few years ago and guess there is some sort of transmission switch but once I moved the shifters back and fourth a few times and it started. Tried this and no luck, Any suggestions?? Have to admit don't know a lot about tractors. Haven't had any real issues before.
- Thread starter Bobk478
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You can unplug the transmission sensor and jump a wire in the plug to bypass that. Try that first, and then see if it starts.
Have had quite a few guys on here lately with a starting problem on a 3600. You can always take a test light and see if you are getting juice to the starter solenoid. There is a single wire spade connector on the solenoid. Give that wire 12 volt and it will crank over.
Have had quite a few guys on here lately with a starting problem on a 3600. You can always take a test light and see if you are getting juice to the starter solenoid. There is a single wire spade connector on the solenoid. Give that wire 12 volt and it will crank over.
Bern
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- Mount Vernon, WA
Jumping across the two large terminals will only make the starter motor turn. The solenoid will not engage, and so therefore the engine will not crank.
To bypass the start circuit, make sure the trans is in neutral and then jump between the battery cable post on the starter solenoid and the smaller spade terminal on the same solenoid.
To bypass the start circuit, make sure the trans is in neutral and then jump between the battery cable post on the starter solenoid and the smaller spade terminal on the same solenoid.
Ultradog MN
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That is the way I've been doing it on my 3000 for 4 years now. I use a lynch pin.
Bern
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- Mount Vernon, WA
I disagree. Your method doesn't activate and test solenoid operation, doesn't verify the condition of the relay contacts, and more importantly, doesn't put the battery, cables, and terminals under nearly the load they would be if the engine was actually cranking. A starter motor turning under no load draws a fraction of the current that the same motor would do turning over the engine.
Your method would likey draw about 50 amps of current. Cranking the engine draws 300 or more.
Your method would likey draw about 50 amps of current. Cranking the engine draws 300 or more.
Again yes it is one of many steps of trouble shooting and it does this the starter to make sure it is good and does so much more safely then going to the small wire first. But then again you love to argue with me so I will ask you to leave me alone and I will leave you alone
Mark Schutte
Member
I have a 3600 too and if you turn the key, nothing. If you move the gear shifter a bit then it starts right up
Mark Schutte
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My 3600 and 1710
Bern
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- Mount Vernon, WA
I have the right to respond to your public postings, whether you like it or not. If I feel that your advice is incomplete or in error, then I am within my bounds to offer other opinions on the matter. I'm sorry if you feel that I'm picking on you. It's not meant to be personal, it's meant to set the record straight.
ern, it is always 'right' to set the record straight. No reason to leave mis-information hanging out here in the archives for years to come. If the truth were to be known, he likely had mouth in motion before mind in gear & blurted out advice on an 8N or other bendix drive type system without even knowing how the 3600 starter worked. Then when corrected, he steps further into it attempting a face saving way out, instead of admitting error & stepping away.
Regardless of what is posted here...
Check that switch. Then put 12 volts to the single spade wire and see if it cranks. How do we know if the ignition switch is bad? We need to look at where the 12 volts in going from the battery to the starter.
It is just that simple.
I hope you get this fixed. No matter what, I hope it gets to work again!
NoNewParts
Member
Not familiar with a 3600, but on my 5000,
it helps if that dumb little spade connector is still hooked up. LOL
Not too proud to admit walking to the shop to get testing tools
when it was just that little connector getting pulled/jarred off.
Difference I noted.
when the neutral safety switch failed, turning the key would do nothing at all until I bypassed it.
When that spade connector falls off, I got the faintest click when I turned the key, nothing else.
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