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This is probably a silly question but I need to ask. :wink:
On my 1963 2000 4 cyl. gas non live power with PTO, What, if anything, could be installed or changed to make live power on this tractor?
In my manual it shows this tractor was available with live power and a PTO. Would it be a major replacement?

Thanks!
 
IIRC the 5 speed trans had live PTO, the 4 speed did not.
The Select-O-Speed had independent PTO.
Someone will correct my memory if its off! :)
 
The quickest, cheapest is an over running clutch goes on your pto shaft. You can start your equipment running, then clutch and put your transmission in gear and go. Also, there are two types of 5 speed trannies, 1 that does not have live pto (n50/n51) and the 5 speed with live pto- the n60/n61 models. The ORC will save your pto equipment from pushing your tractor into something if you are trying to stop.
 
stevob671 the ORC is a great safety device and it will keep a
brush hog from pushing your tractor, highly recommended.
But its not the same as having live PTO.
You're also right about the x50/x501 and x60/x61 5 speeds.
Those were hundred series tractors though.
Did the 2000 have a non-live 5 speed?
I honestly don't remember.
 
Easiest and cheapest? Sell tractor and buy one with live pro, might be even up $.

Otherwise ot at minimum needs a trans transplant from a live 5spd, preferable a late *61 or another 000, so splines and pedals match, otherwise ya got even more work
 
(quoted from post at 20:15:10 12/04/14) Easiest and cheapest? Sell tractor and buy one with live pro, might be even up $.

Otherwise ot at minimum needs a trans transplant from a live 5spd, preferable a late *61 or another 000, so splines and pedals match, otherwise ya got even more work


Thanks for your input.
I have the ORC. It works ok, just not the same. I was hoping it was a simple remove and replace item. Oh well, I'll get my trans repaired and maybe keep my eyes open.
 
In your other post you state you are looking for the
most economical way to repair the trans. Just
replace the gear or (gears) and replace any worn
bearing and be done with it. If you are doing the
labor yourself surely this will be the cheapest way
to go.
Swapping trans or going with a 5 speed with live pto
will cost more.

Kirk
 
I assume that this is the same 4 speed transmission as from your other post. If so, then the only way to get live PTO on that tractor would be to swap out the 4 speed transmission for a 5 speed. The 4 speed transmissions were never available with live PTO.
 
Sean
You could get the live pto option for the 4 speed.
It would not be cheap if you could even find one and
I believe they were only used up to the Jub and
since a 2000 would have a fine spline in wouldn't
work anyway.

Kirk
 
(quoted from post at 13:15:30 12/05/14) Remove and replace?

Sure, new back half of tractor from a live job will do it :)

Thanks everyone! I think I'll just tear it down and replace what's needed and keep on like I was doing.
 
(quoted from post at 20:10:23 12/05/14) Did anyone ever make a rear axle clutch for these tractors, similar to the M&W used on Farmalls? Just wondering!

Yes, that was the "live" PTO option that was available for the N's and the NAA's that Kirk-NJ was referring to. It was made by Sherman and available as a dealer installed option, but as Kirk-NJ also pointed out, they were only ever made for the earlier tractors that had the coarse output shaft splines on the transmission that wouldn't work on a 4 cylinder 2000 as it has the newer fine spline output shaft.
 

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