Ford 8000 9000 8600 9600 Narrow front?

D17puller

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Hello guys I am looking for a narrow front end to fit my 9600 ford tractor Do you know if this was an option and where one may go to find one? Thank you!
 
Yes, it was an option, but very uncommon. You may have to
modify some other n/f to fit. At least one member here has done
exactly that. From an IH 'M', if I remember right.
 
Finding an original one for it will be hard. They
are bigger than all the other Ford frontends and
bolt directly to the steering. You might find one
for a 5200 or 7200 which is the smaller bolt
pattern front end and has an adapter to bolt to
the bigger pattern. We made our own adapter out
of a couple pieces of 1 inch thick steel and used
a 900 pedestal on our 5200. It bolts to the
steering and is drilled and tapped for the
pedestal to bolt to it. We are going to build
another on to put on our 8000 this winter.
 
It's the same narrow front as the old ford 900/901/4000 row crop tractors, except for an adapter plate that is bolted on top.

If you find a narrow front from a 900/901/4000, I'll sell you the adapter plate and bolts.


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(quoted from post at 21:29:20 11/26/14) It's the same narrow front as the old ford 900/901/4000 row crop tractors, except for an adapter plate that is bolted on top.

If you find a narrow front from a 900/901/4000, I'll sell you the adapter plate and bolts.


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So it is the same part number for the 9000 and 9600? Other than an adapter plate? This is correct? Thanks for the response and the 7000 looks great!
 
It's the same part number on 8000, 9000, 8600 and 9600. It is
a bigger pedestal and uses no adapter but there aren't many
around. What John is talking about was for the 5000 and 7000
but will work just fine on the big tractors. Any other ford narrow
front like for 900,901,4000 4cyl or 4200 will work with the
adapter and fit the big tractors. There are some differences in
wheel bearings depending on what the pedestal came from so
try to get one with hubs it might be easier. Been there done
that switching a 6000 from narrow to wide.
 

Thank you for all of the help guys I will try to find one for a smaller tractor and go that route! Does the 7000 have its own narrow front? Thanks again!
 
(quoted from post at 15:58:38 11/27/14)
Thank you for all of the help guys I will try to find one for a smaller tractor and go that route! Does the 7000 have its own narrow front? Thanks again!

I saw a 901 front pedestal on Fleabay the other day.
 
I have a narrow front from a ford 7000 I believe so what would this be the same as? When I purchased it that is what I was told it was from. Thank you all for the help!
 
Yeah, the 8000/9000 narrow front is a one piece narrow front. However, finding one is impossible. You can just use a 5000/7000 narrow front, like mine. That is what I meant.

The front end for the 5000/7000 is a pedestal from a 900/901 with an adapter plate bolted on top. It's the same part number for the actual narrow front, though. So, if you have a narrow front for a ford 7000, you should be able to see that it is a shorter pedestal, with an adapter plate bolted to the top. and yeah, it should bolt right up to an 8000/9000

Can you take a picture of it? I'd like to see it. I can get the part numbers off my narrow front after I eat some turkey. I have the wide front on my 7000 now, narrow front is up in the loft.
 
(quoted from post at 10:58:38 11/27/14)
Thank you for all of the help guys I will try to find one for a smaller tractor and go that route! Does the 7000 have its own narrow front? Thanks again!

No, the 7000 front is not just for that tractor.

What Ford did was take the standard row crop front from their first row crop tractors, like the 900, and used it on all tractors. So, when they came out with the 4000 it used the same front, then the new 68 and up 4200 used the same front. When they came out with the bigger 5000 row crop, they made an adapter plate for the same old narrow front from the 1950's. Then, when the 7000 came out in 1971, it used the same adapter plate as the 5000. So, if you have a Ford narrow front, it will fit any ford row crop tractor ever made. If the narrow front you have, has an adapter plate bolted to the top, then it is from either a 5000 or 7000 row crop, but, it will fit the 5600/6600C/7200/5200/7600/8000/8600/9000/9600/8700/9700. I'm not sure if it will fit the 7700 or 7710. I'd like to try it someday on a 7710 with a 456 genesis engine for a pulling tractor. lol
 

I will do that when I am around it next time. What type of number am I looking For? Also is the adapter plate you mentioned earlier one that would work for me? Thanks so much for all the help I am not knowledgeable at all on this! Thanks again!
 
Yeah, the adapter plate I mentioned earlier is the same one, but it sounds like you already have one.

I had a few tractor pulling people asking for that adapter, back when I worked for Ford New Holland. So, I had my machine shop copy my adapter and make a batch of them, as all the tractor pullers who want to go narrow front on the 8000/9000/8600/9600/8700/9700 can find an old 900/901 row crop pedestal pretty easily at a junk yard, but couldn't buy the adapter from ford. I think I still have 1 left with bolts. If not, my machine shop has the pattern and can crank out a new one fairly quickly.
 

I do not see an adapter with mine st all. I guess give me a call I would like to talk to you about it. Call me at anytime! Thank you!

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My front that I have does have an adapter I will try to snap a photo of it! I made a call it was said to be off of an 8600. thanks!
 
Here are some pictures of my 7000 narrow front.
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Is this what you have? That piece bolted to the bottom is the adapter. The rest of the unit will bolt right onto the old ford 900/901 tractors.
 

Chad,

give me a call at 724-four-seven-ohh-six-2-won-8. Or you can text me.

I will look to see if I have any left. I may not. They weren't cheap from the machine shop. There is lots of milling involved, but I can't remember the exact price. I'll call the machine shop on Monday, and see what it cost to have one machined, plus the bolts. The bolts we used were different from factory, because the machining was slightly different, with a heavier support piece.
 
Yep that's it! That's a 5000/7000 narrow front, but it will bolt right up to the 8000/9000 tractors.

If it was an original 8000/9000 narrow front, it would be heavier, and wouldn't have an adapter, as it was built for the tractor, not adapted to it.


However, what you have, will bolt right up to the tractor you have. That's amazing that you have one! Are you going to use it for tractor pulling, or are you cultivating row crops with that big tractor?
 

I have one from Farmall H under mine. It is nearly a direct bolt-up. There a re a bunch of videos on U tube. Ford 9000 tractor pull Bob Bohondoney.
 

Just love narrow front tractors. My dad has a 9600 and I am looking for a 9000 tractor would like to actually find another narrow front. If you know of what they may be worth that would be great to find one! How much would one be worth with the adapter and front?
 
(quoted from post at 12:08:46 11/30/14)
I have one from Farmall H under mine. It is nearly a direct bolt-up. There a re a bunch of videos on U tube. Ford 9000 tractor pull Bob Bohondoney.

Showcrop, can you explain what you had to modify to adapt the IH pedestal to your 9000?
Thanks, Chad
 
(quoted from post at 15:24:58 11/30/14)
(quoted from post at 12:08:46 11/30/14)
I have one from Farmall H under mine. It is nearly a direct bolt-up. There a re a bunch of videos on U tube. Ford 9000 tractor pull Bob Bohondoney.

Showcrop, can you explain what you had to modify to adapt the IH pedestal to your 9000?
Thanks, Chad

I just had to elongate the holes in the pedestal a little. maybe 1/8 inch each. The pedestal bolts up to the round plate that is part of the hydraulic steering cylinder.
 

Machine shop says he doesn't have the plans anymore. He did say he cut it all out of one piece, no welding.

Do you want me to measure it for you?
 
(quoted from post at 11:58:36 12/04/14)
Machine shop says he doesn't have the plans anymore. He did say he cut it all out of one piece, no welding.

Do you want me to measure it for you?

John, thanks for checking with the machine shop.
No need for measurements, thanks for the offer.
Chad
 

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