dan99

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This is my first post! guys i just bought a 340b with a bucket and a three point hitch - but it does not have a pto just a cover plate over the shaft hole - can i buy a pto shaft and insert it and start bush hogging or how can i tell if my tractor is set up for a pto?? thanks so much for the help.
Dan
 
Some can have a pto added, some can't. Depends at least in
part on which transmission you have. Can you post your full
model number from the tag under the hood? (Also stamped on
the bellhousing) Even if you are able to add a pto to your
tractor, it will involve more than just slipping a shaft in place. ..
 
(quoted from post at 13:18:31 11/20/14) Some can have a pto added, some can't. Depends at least in
part on which transmission you have. Can you post your full
model number from the tag under the hood? (Also stamped on
the bellhousing) Even if you are able to add a pto to your
tractor, it will involve more than just slipping a shaft in place. ..[/quo

I will get you the full serial numbers as soon as I can this weekend - tomorrow Saturday - thank you so much for your interest and help.
dan
 

I will have the full serial numbers tomorrow and will post -
thanks so much for your interest,
Dan
 
Shaun was referring to the transmission (4 fwd. X 4 rev.) Since
yours has the reversing lever, it has a torque converter
transmission... which did not have a pto option. Wether or not
one could be added like the 260C Ultra mentioned is beyond my
scope of knowledge.
 
(quoted from post at 08:13:43 11/21/14) Shaun was referring to the transmission (4 fwd. X 4 rev.) Since
yours has the reversing lever, it has a torque converter
transmission... which did not have a pto option. Wether or not
one could be added like the 260C Ultra mentioned is beyond my
scope of knowledge.

ahh i get it now - yes i think it has 4 forward gears and a high and low so 8 total forward - i will post the serials numbers tomorrow - and pictures. It is a good solid tractor and very necessary and useful with the bucket etc. but i will be disappointed if it cannot be fitted for pto without a major overhaul - what a shame and i guess that is why it has been on this same farm i just bought (with the tractor) all this time w/o one... i am learning!
 
According to the parts site, the 340B was only available with PTO if it had the 8x2 manual tranny or the 6x4 manual reverser. The 4x4 auto reverser did not have a PTO available.

The 260C, on the other hand, shows the same PTO for the 8x2 and 6x4 as the 340B, but the auto reverser is an 8x8 instead of a 4x4, and it does show a PTO available as well.
 
(quoted from post at 15:01:08 11/21/14) According to the parts site, the 340B was only available with PTO if it had the 8x2 manual tranny or the 6x4 manual reverser. The 4x4 auto reverser did not have a PTO available.

The 260C, on the other hand, shows the same PTO for the 8x2 and 6x4 as the 340B, but the auto reverser is an 8x8 instead of a 4x4, and it does show a PTO available as well.

i will post the serial numbers tomorrow because i hate to admit it i don't know what i am talking about - hopefully you guys can look at the serial numbers and tell what this things equipped with.
thanks a bunch and thanks for your patience,
Dan
 
(quoted from post at 13:18:31 11/20/14) Some can have a pto added, some can't. Depends at least in
part on which transmission you have. Can you post your full
model number from the tag under the hood? (Also stamped on
the bellhousing) Even if you are able to add a pto to your
tractor, it will involve more than just slipping a shaft in place. ..

Here is the information from the serial number plate - please let me know your thoughts,
thanks!
Dan

tractor # 0749174
model# CU411B
unit# 5J23b
transmission# 5H19B
engine# 5J17A
rear axel# 5H28B
hyd lift# 5303B
hyd pump# 5H09B
 

Here is the information from the serial number plate - please let me know your thoughts,
thanks!
Dan

tractor # 0749174
model# CU411B
unit# 5J23b
transmission# 5H19B
engine# 5J17A
rear axel# 5H28B
hyd lift# 5303B
hyd pump# 5H09B
 

Here is the information from the serial number plate - please let me know your thoughts,
thanks!
Dan

tractor # 0749174
model# CU411B
unit# 5J23b
transmission# 5H19B
engine# 5J17A
rear axel# 5H28B
hyd lift# 5303B
hyd pump# 5H09B
 

Here is the information from the serial number plate - please let me know your thoughts,
thanks!
Dan

tractor # 0749174
model# CU411B
unit# 5J23b
transmission# 5H19B
engine# 5J17A
rear axel# 5H28B
hyd lift# 5303B
hyd pump# 5H09B
 
Are you sure the last character in the model number is a B? It should be a C, F or K.

model# CU411B
CU4 - 340B
First 1 - Diesel engine
Second 1 - No PTO
B - 6 speed manual transmission. 3 forward and 1 reverse speed on the main shifter and high/low range on secondary shifter for a total of 6 forward and 2 reverse speeds, which wasn't available on the 340B as far as I can tell. The only transmissions available for the 340B according to the parts site are the 8 speed manual (Code "C"), the 6x4 manual reverser (code "K") and the 4x4 auto reverser with torque converter (code "F").

tractor # 0749174 - I would bet that this is really C749174, as this is the serial number and it should be a letter (A, B or C) followed by a 6 digit number. C749174 would be a 1985 serial number

unit# 5J23b - This says that the tractor left the assembly line on September 23, 1985 during the day shift.

The rest are just assembly date codes for the various major sub-assemblies of the tractor:

transmission# 5H19B - August 12 1985 day shift
engine# 5J17A - September 17, 1985 midnight shift
rear axel# 5H28B - August 28, 1985 day shift
hyd lift# 5303B - 3rd day of some month in 1985 during the day shift, but the second character should be a letter to designate which month.
hyd pump# 5H09B - August 9 1985 day shift
 
(quoted from post at 07:51:31 11/24/14) Are you sure the last character in the model number is a B? It should be a C, F or K.

Sean i will go back and check ALL of the numbers but two of us looked at the serial #'s and I am pretty sure it was a "B" on the end of most all of the numbers - so does this mean a major overhaul to get pto installed?? do you think?
thanks,
Dan


model# CU411B
CU4 - 340B
First 1 - Diesel engine
Second 1 - No PTO
B - 6 speed manual transmission. 3 forward and 1 reverse speed on the main shifter and high/low range on secondary shifter for a total of 6 forward and 2 reverse speeds, which wasn't available on the 340B as far as I can tell. The only transmissions available for the 340B according to the parts site are the 8 speed manual (Code "C"), the 6x4 manual reverser (code "K") and the 4x4 auto reverser with torque converter (code "F").

tractor # 0749174 - I would bet that this is really C749174, as this is the serial number and it should be a letter (A, B or C) followed by a 6 digit number. C749174 would be a 1985 serial number

unit# 5J23b - This says that the tractor left the assembly line on September 23, 1985 during the day shift.

The rest are just assembly date codes for the various major sub-assemblies of the tractor:

transmission# 5H19B - August 12 1985 day shift
engine# 5J17A - September 17, 1985 midnight shift
rear axel# 5H28B - August 28, 1985 day shift
hyd lift# 5303B - 3rd day of some month in 1985 during the day shift, but the second character should be a letter to designate which month.
hyd pump# 5H09B - August 9 1985 day shift
 
(quoted from post at 07:51:31 11/24/14) Are you sure the last character in the model number is a B? It should be a C, F or K.

model# CU411B
CU4 - 340B
First 1 - Diesel engine
Second 1 - No PTO
B - 6 speed manual transmission. 3 forward and 1 reverse speed on the main shifter and high/low range on secondary shifter for a total of 6 forward and 2 reverse speeds, which wasn't available on the 340B as far as I can tell. The only transmissions available for the 340B according to the parts site are the 8 speed manual (Code "C"), the 6x4 manual reverser (code "K") and the 4x4 auto reverser with torque converter (code "F").

tractor # 0749174 - I would bet that this is really C749174, as this is the serial number and it should be a letter (A, B or C) followed by a 6 digit number. C749174 would be a 1985 serial number

unit# 5J23b - This says that the tractor left the assembly line on September 23, 1985 during the day shift.

The rest are just assembly date codes for the various major sub-assemblies of the tractor:

transmission# 5H19B - August 12 1985 day shift
engine# 5J17A - September 17, 1985 midnight shift
rear axel# 5H28B - August 28, 1985 day shift
hyd lift# 5303B - 3rd day of some month in 1985 during the day shift, but the second character should be a letter to designate which month.
hyd pump# 5H09B - August 9 1985 day shift

Sean you were are correct there is a "C" in front of the tractor #! What are your thoughts on the possibility of adding pto to this tractor??
thanks
Dan
 
What about the last character of the model number? That will tell us what transmission it has, and we need to know what transmission it has before we can tell you if it can have a PTO added to it, and how difficult it might be if it can.
 
(quoted from post at 07:51:31 11/24/14) Are you sure the last character in the model number is a B? It should be a C, F or K.

model# CU411B
CU4 - 340B
First 1 - Diesel engine
Second 1 - No PTO
B - 6 speed manual transmission. 3 forward and 1 reverse speed on the main shifter and high/low range on secondary shifter for a total of 6 forward and 2 reverse speeds, which wasn't available on the 340B as far as I can tell. The only transmissions available for the 340B according to the parts site are the 8 speed manual (Code "C"), the 6x4 manual reverser (code "K") and the 4x4 auto reverser with torque converter (code "F").

tractor # 0749174 - I would bet that this is really C749174, as this is the serial number and it should be a letter (A, B or C) followed by a 6 digit number. C749174 would be a 1985 serial number

unit# 5J23b - This says that the tractor left the assembly line on September 23, 1985 during the day shift.

The rest are just assembly date codes for the various major sub-assemblies of the tractor:

transmission# 5H19B - August 12 1985 day shift
engine# 5J17A - September 17, 1985 midnight shift
rear axel# 5H28B - August 28, 1985 day shift
hyd lift# 5303B - 3rd day of some month in 1985 during the day shift, but the second character should be a letter to designate which month.
hyd pump# 5H09B - August 9 1985 day shift

Sean i checked it closely and the final letter is a "B" - i can get the serial numbers stamped on the axle housing if that will help... please let me know your thoughts,
thanks,
Dan
 
The B at the end of the model number would indicate a 6 speed transmission (3 forward and 1 reverse speed on the main taller shifter, and High/Low on the shorter secondary shifter for a total of 6 forward speeds and 2 reverse speed. If that is the transmission that it truly has, then a PTO could probably be added, although according to the parts site the 340B did not have the 6 speed available. Plus it would probably be cheaper and easier to find a tractor that has a blown engine that also has the transmission and PTO options that you want and swap the rear half of that tractor onto your front half.

Now I'm trying to get some clarification:

In an earlier post you said that it has a F-N-R lever on the left, which a "B" code 6 speed would not have had.

Later you said that you think that it has 4 forward plus a hi/low, which would make it an 8 speed, which should be a "C" code, not a "B" code. But an 8 speed would also not have the F-N-R lever on the left.

So we're still trying to figure out what transmission you actually have.

Can you find the numbers stamped into the flat spot on the transmission bell housing just aft of the starter? It is possible that the transmission was swapped out at some point and so the trans that is in the tractor now doesn't match what's on the model number on the sticker under the hood. Since the stamped numbers on the bell housing are on the transmission itself, if the model number there is different than what is on the sticker, at least it should be correct about what type of transmission it is.
 
(quoted from post at 08:04:39 11/30/14) The B at the end of the model number would indicate a 6 speed transmission (3 forward and 1 reverse speed on the main taller shifter, and High/Low on the shorter secondary shifter for a total of 6 forward speeds and 2 reverse speed. If that is the transmission that it truly has, then a PTO could probably be added, although according to the parts site the 340B did not have the 6 speed available. Plus it would probably be cheaper and easier to find a tractor that has a blown engine that also has the transmission and PTO options that you want and swap the rear half of that tractor onto your front half.

Now I'm trying to get some clarification:

In an earlier post you said that it has a F-N-R lever on the left, which a "B" code 6 speed would not have had.

Later you said that you think that it has 4 forward plus a hi/low, which would make it an 8 speed, which should be a "C" code, not a "B" code. But an 8 speed would also not have the F-N-R lever on the left.

So we're still trying to figure out what transmission you actually have.

Can you find the numbers stamped into the flat spot on the transmission bell housing just aft of the starter? It is possible that the transmission was swapped out at some point and so the trans that is in the tractor now doesn't match what's on the model number on the sticker under the hood. Since the stamped numbers on the bell housing are on the transmission itself, if the model number there is different than what is on the sticker, at least it should be correct about what type of transmission it is.

Sean i will get as soon as i get home and BTW i am a tractor moron i know nothing i can only look at the shift pattern and say what i think it has in gears - BUT the shuttle shifter is on the left side! that i know for sure! and it appears to have 1 2 3 4 gears on the shift sticker which is on the right side - and i am pretty certain it has a high and low range - once again Sean thanks so much for staying with me on this!! You guys are great on the forum!
sincerely,
Dan
 
If the shift pattern shows 4 speeds, and its got the F-N-R lever on the left side, then it's the 4x4 torque converter auto reversing transmission, and there is no hi/low range on that trans. Also, that transmission does not have the ability to add a PTO.
 
(quoted from post at 06:02:34 12/02/14) If the shift pattern shows 4 speeds, and its got the F-N-R lever on the left side, then it's the 4x4 torque converter auto reversing transmission, and there is no hi/low range on that trans. Also, that transmission does not have the ability to add a PTO.

Sean what you are describing above is exactly the way the tractor is as it sets on the ground right now ... i was unable to get the serial numbers from the axle this weekend but i will in the next few days - but it looks like you have figured it out and i cant easily add pto - what is your suggestion then at this point for me to move forward?? sell the tractor or is this something that can be done without great expense?
thanks
Dan
 
Probably easiest to sell that tractor and buy one that has the features that you're looking for. Only other choice is to find one with a blown engine that has the trans and PTO options that you're looking for and swap out the rear halves. My guess as to what other models that you could swap halves with would include the 3910 and 3930 and possibly some others, but don't take my word as gospel on that. Others on here might know for sure.
 

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