To convert or not to convert that was the question

Hello and thank you to all of you who have submitted your views on my 1954 Jubilee tractor electrical problems.As a result of your information and thoughts I will convert the old girl to a 12 volt system using points and not the EI and see how it goes. I will try and send out information as I go that may assist anyone else out there who could profit from the experience.In the meantime if anyone has done this conversion and has any advice regarding doing the installation please let me know
Thanks Again
 
I'm not sure what the difference is, but if you search on Gogle you can find lots of complete conversion kits, including instructions, for the hundred, '01 and 4 cylinder thousand series tractors for well under $100.00, but the cheapest I can find that says that it is for an NAA is from our hosts here at Yesterday's Tractors, and it is $133.65.

[u:6b2e017627]12 volt conversion kit for 4 cylinder 600-700-800-900-2000-4000 on ebay for $84.02 + $12.00 shipping[/u:6b2e017627]

[u:6b2e017627]12 volt conversion kit for NAA on yesterdays tractors for $133.65 + shipping[/u:6b2e017627]

I always thought that the NAA was the same engine and electrical system as the 600, 601 and 4 cylinder 2000 series, so I always assume that the conversion kit would be the same, but apparently not. Hopefully someone else can tell us what might be different between them.
 
When I go to 12 volts on tractors I buy a simple Delco 10si alternator from the auto parts store for around $45 with a life time warranty. Then I buy the little 2 wire plug and do the wiring from scratch. Saves a bit of $$ in the long run from buying a kit. Done so many I can almost do it in my sleep
 
Not your exact model, but if you were like me when I converted mine, this article will help you understand the principles behind your charging system.

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ford&th=344550
 
all that is needed to convery a 53-64 red tiger to 12v is:

1 alt

2 battery

3, preferably 12v coil, but could use a resistor to add to 6v coil

4, brackets. same brackets that fit naa fit a 64 4000 ( brackets fit all red tiger 134, 144, 172, 192 engines.. gas, lp gas, diesel.. etc.

Depending on which type of alt you use. you may need ignition isolation thru a bulb, resistor, diode or accy switch position.

5, optionally, new lamp bulbs.. etc.. etc ..
 
The NAA uses the wider fan belt that is used on the N series tractors so it requires a wider alternator pulley then the one on the hundred series.

Mark
 
(quoted from post at 15:21:40 07/28/14) The NAA uses the wider fan belt that is used on the N series tractors so it requires a wider alternator pulley then the one on the hundred series.

Mark

So the folks selling these kits seem to think that the wider pulley costs at least $40.00 more than the narrower one.
 
I wouldn't want a 6v tractor and a gennerator. I
have 12v and alternator on both a Jubilee and an
IH C. IH C has Mag. The ford has a ballast
resistor. Get the right resistor and you won't eat
points.

Some say that EI may generate too hot of spark and
do damage to pistion. Others may say it doesn't.
I've had some issues with the old rotor and
distrubutor cap. If the spark were hotter, there
may be more rotor and cap failures.

I see no need to convert to EI. Points are too
easy to replace.
George
 
12 v. coil is only about $16 at NAPA. Don't mess
with a resistor and the old 6 v. coil. NAPA number
is IC 14 SB.
 
I didn't buy a kit when I did my Jubilee, just did it by hand.
Made the brackets myself too, but if you don't have a welder
YT sells the brackets individually or as a kit as needed.
Google "wiring diagrams by jmor" to get the wiring diagram.
He has made some very clear, easy to understand pictograms
of both single wire and 3 wire conversions. Can't go wrong.
 
ndJubileeguy. Just for snicks, check out Genesse Products. His kit is a bit more expensive but comes with EVERYTHING you'll need. Alternator, brackets, pulley installed, wiring loom completely ready to install, voltmeter and new 12v coil. Instructions and diagram are step by step and precise. I was in a hurry to get mine done and didn't want to scrounge around making brackets and buying parts. (although it's cheaper that way). My kit complete was $189. I would do it again in a heartbeat. Tractor hasn't missed a beat since installed. Just my opinion........ Tom
 
This sight is fantastic and I truly appreciate all
of those that took time to share your experience
and knowledge.I look forward to future discussions
as I begin to learn more about tractor maintenance
and operation.Having purchased this older ford is
teaching me plenty.I don't think it is possible
for anyone who does not own or who has not had any
experience with tractors to understand what a
unique and interesting group of people tractor
owners are.I regard with great admiration all the
farmers who have fed and continue to feed our
planet using these amazing machines.These men and
women have to have abilities and understanding of
so many skills it would be a difficult task just
to list them all.
 
I have a 631 that I have wanted to convert from 6v
to 12v, but did not think I would be able to myself.
will be watching your future post to see how it
works for you.
 
(quoted from post at 17:48:07 07/28/14) I wouldn't want a 6v tractor and a gennerator. I
have 12v and alternator on both a Jubilee and an
IH C. IH C has Mag. The ford has a ballast
resistor. Get the right resistor and you won't eat
points.

Some say that EI may generate too hot of spark and
do damage to pistion. Others may say it doesn't.
I've had some issues with the old rotor and
distrubutor cap. If the spark were hotter, there
may be more rotor and cap failures.

I see no need to convert to EI. Points are too
easy to replace.
George

Haven't melted anything yet, but after converting to EI the plugs in my 640 are burning clean, almost to clean, and it starts a lot quicker also without choking.
 

Okay I will be working on it the second weekend in August if the weather is good. I will try and take video if I can as well.
 

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