buying used tires and rims

esbrian · Jul 22, 2014

I'm in the market for a backup set of rear tires for my 850, and a friend of mine is moving and needs to get rid of a used set with (but not mounted on) rims.

I know what I would have to pay for new tires with or without rims, but I don't have a good sense of what I should expect to pay for used. Can somebody give me a ballpark relative to condition? I haven't seen them yet, but I've asked for pics.

Brian

sotxbill · Jul 22, 2014

pends on condition.. and dry rot.. if they are cracked and cracking, tread doesnt mean much.. if the are not cracked but worn smooth, condition doesnt mean much.. Then there is the price of new tires from sellers on ebay like tucker tire who set the price for new tires....

so condition, wear, brand... ie firestones will generally out last most tires all things being equal.. michellin,goodyear, armstrong, safemark, and titians are also good lasting tires... china or austrian tires can fall apart in 5 years from cracking and are usually junk..

since you dont give a brand or size, condition, is a swag... $50 to 300 each????

esbrian · Jul 22, 2014

(quoted from post at 13:09:17 07/22/14)
pends on condition.. and dry rot.. if they are cracked and cracking, tread doesnt mean much.. if the are not cracked but worn smooth, condition doesnt mean much.. Then there is the price of new tires from sellers on ebay like tucker tire who set the price for new tires....

so condition, wear, brand... ie firestones will generally out last most tires all things being equal.. michellin,goodyear, armstrong, safemark, and titians are also good lasting tires... china or austrian tires can fall apart in 5 years from cracking and are usually junk..

since you dont give a brand or size, condition, is a swag... $50 to 300 each????

Well until I get a look at them, a swag is about all I can ask for. Tires are 12x28 (must be 12.4, right?), described as being in good shape with no dry rot or big cracks, 65% tread. "Big" might mean different things to different people, however... The ones I'm riding on now I would definitely describe as having big cracks.

In terms of cracks and dry rot, how do you tell what you need to worry about? My dad's 2-year old Kubota's tires already have cracks between the treads...

Brian

Geo-TH,In · Jul 22, 2014

I recently bought 8 ply chinese 6x16 3 rib tires
and tubes for my Jubilee, shipping included for
$160. Cost me $10 each for tire barn to mount
them. They will last me a life time. Sold my one
good used one for $25.

If I were you I would get an idea of what new
tires would cost me by using advance search, buy
it now, on ebay. I sometime check out amazon's
prices.

Rural King got out of the tire business. So if you
buy used tires you may have to mount them
yourself. Many places, for insurance reason's,
don't want anything to do with used tires.

So research who will mount used tires. Old tires
and rusty rims may also need tubes, like mine.
George

esbrian · Jul 22, 2014

(quoted from post at 14:40:55 07/22/14) I recently bought 8 ply chinese 6x16 3 rib tires
and tubes for my Jubilee, shipping included for
$160. Cost me $10 each for tire barn to mount
them. They will last me a life time. Sold my one
good used one for $25.

If I were you I would get an idea of what new
tires would cost me by using advance search, buy
it now, on ebay. I sometime check out amazon's
prices.

Rural King got out of the tire business. So if you
buy used tires you may have to mount them
yourself. Many places, for insurance reason's,
don't want anything to do with used tires.

So research who will mount used tires. Old tires
and rusty rims may also need tubes, like mine.
George

Good point, George. I know a guy who would do it for sure, but after seeing how my trailer rims came back when he put tires on them there's no way he's going near my tractor rims OR tires.

Texas! · Jul 22, 2014

12x28 is the old designation for the current size 13.6x28. If they are truly 12x28 tires they are very old.

souNdguy · Jul 22, 2014

Ditto what Texas said.

If the tire says 12-28 it is an old tire and is a 13.6-28 byt todays measurement.

10-28 is an 11.2-28

11-28 is an 12.4-28

Ultradog MN · Jul 22, 2014

Yes. Not only old but Very old.
Like 50 years or so.

NNP · Jul 22, 2014

While I have quite a few of the old sized ones around here
on non-hardworking tractors,
since these are not mounted, I'd probably pass.
The rubber will be very hard and the cloth? belting will be unreliable. Mounting would be tough and seating the bead might make them fail.
I use em when there is nothing else, but messing with them, I'm always ready to run if I hear the dreaded 'tearing' sound....
(I have one truly ancient set of 12-44's that are so hard they don't sag even with hardly any air in them.....with a roughly 3000 lb tractor sitting on em)

Texas! · Jul 22, 2014

That would be about the same age as you and me!

Garycw · Jul 22, 2014

With the new sizing from 12-28 how would 13.6-28 and 14.9-28 compare? I have a 841 & 851 with these two sizes. I thins one says 12" rim & one says 13" rim?

esbrian · Oct 30, 2014

Well I've wandered across another set of tires. After a recent thread convinced me that I would need some extra weight if I wanted to get any use out of my 850 moving snow this winter, I happened upon another set of tires. This is an umatched pair of 13.6x28 tires on 6-loop rims that came off of an IH 300. The rims appear to be 12" - I didn't measure but they're noticeably larger than my current 11" rims. First question is will these rims work on my centers?

The rims have been repainted with the tires on and show some rust anyway. One of the tires is a Firestone in what I would consider good condition, but without too much tread left. The other I couldn't read the labeling on because it was so old and checked. The old one is loaded with CaCl in a tube, the Firestone is just air. What is one likely to pay to get the unloaded tire loaded?

Basically I would be buying these for improved traction in the winter months and to have an extra set of mounted tires so I don't have any down time or get forced into buying new if I need one suddenly. My concern is whether the older tire is likely to last under light-moderate use for any length of time. Thoughts?

NNP · Oct 31, 2014

(quoted from post at 18:58:59 10/30/14) Well I've wandered across another set of tires. After a recent thread convinced me that I would need some extra weight if I wanted to get any use out of my 850 moving snow this winter, I happened upon another set of tires. This is an umatched pair of 13.6x28 tires on 6-loop rims that came off of an IH 300. The rims appear to be 12" - I didn't measure but they're noticeably larger than my current 11" rims. First question is will these rims work on my centers?

The rims have been repainted with the tires on and show some rust anyway. One of the tires is a Firestone in what I would consider good condition, but without too much tread left. The other I couldn't read the labeling on because it was so old and checked. The old one is loaded with CaCl in a tube, the Firestone is just air. What is one likely to pay to get the unloaded tire loaded?

Basically I would be buying these for improved traction in the winter months and to have an extra set of mounted tires so I don't have any down time or get forced into buying new if I need one suddenly. My concern is whether the older tire is likely to last under light-moderate use for any length of time. Thoughts?

good plan
if the price is right, I buy used tires whether I need them or not.....I will eventually.
Looks like they will fit your centers fine.
Filling the empty one is easy. Do a search, lots of ways and fluid options.
Now the hard part of your question on the cracked one.
Who knows....?
I have heavily cracked tires that look far worse than that one,
and they have been working hard for years. (one, I can stick the end of my finger in the cracks!)
Others that looks good to fair.....fail.
Recently had a 14.9 on a Ford fail -bulge- that only had one small weather crack around the sidewall. yep, bulged there. shame.
And a big JD tire with no cracking at all and 99% tread is going to fail soon. A 3 inch section of the bead is starting to bulge outwards. real shame.
So, this long story reason?.....ya never know

showcrop · Oct 31, 2014

As Sotxbill said, the question is in how weathered they are. It can be very difficult to tell how deep the cracks are with no air pressure. If he has a loader try pressing down enough on the standing tire to make it bulge a little top and bottom, and you can get a better idea of the depth of cracks.

marmon77 · Oct 31, 2014

I recently bought a set of used tires for my 850, they are pretty weathered. Question is will the tire still fail with a tube in it?

showcrop · Oct 31, 2014

(quoted from post at 07:57:06 10/31/14) I recently bought a set of used tires for my 850, they are pretty weathered. Question is will the tire still fail with a tube in it?

It sure will!!! It doesn't take long for the tube to push out through a crack and get pinched.

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