1953 golden jubalee

you could DOWNGRADE it to a normal style.. but that wouldn't qualify for the upgrade you are seeking.

there are paper cone shaped filters that can be had ( K & N ) that can be fitted to the carb mouth...

A properly serviced oil bath filter should provide better flow and good filtration.. look at how old that tractor is. it didn't make it 60 years because it needed a better air filter..
 
Soundguy,
About a week ago a friend, who also has old tractors, asked me why don't they have oil bath air filters on new tractors? I told I didn't know, but I like the one on my IH C and Jubilee. Just cleaned both of then recently. Cost about $.50 worth of oil.

I remember when lawn mowers had oil filters too.

So, why did they do away with oil bath filters?
George
 
Here's my GUESS

1, with a paper filter, it's quick and easy to run a retainer nut off and pull a cover, rip a filter out, slap one in, and then charge the labor out at whatever book minimum is.. maybee half hour.. then charge for that filter element ( 9$-???$ ).. takes maybee 5m to generate that money. markup on filter.. etc..
the oil back on the other hand. for a regualr change.. it is unclipping an oil can, dumping. maybee a trip thru the parts cleaner to get sediments out.. then a wipe with a rag, and then a refill with that 50 cents of oil.

probably takes the service guy longer to service the oil bath.. thus he eats some of that minimum billed labor profit.. then thay have no filter element to markup and sell you .. just that cup of oil.

Besides. the air filter is one of those daily or more often service things if you are doing it right.. not a monthly or 3 month thing that a service station might do.

I doubt as many people would bring a tractor in to the dealer for an oil change.. but they might sure buy filters at the dealer. dealer can make more $$ selling that peper filter than he can selling you a quart of oil that lasts you 2 filter cleanings.

IMHO. most people probably service that poor oil bath 1-2 per year when they do the engine oil change.. so that means the dealer makes no $$ on selling you air filter oil.

them are my guesses. IE. More money in the paper filter..
 
Soundguy,
That was my idea too, all comes down to making more money.

I was wondering if oil filters may have a horsepower limit too. Would it be possible to feed a 300 hp diesel through an oil filter?
George
 
I'd think you can get better flow thru an oil bath type with less plugging as a paper will. that said. due to money and labor practicality.. I doubt you see them much anymore.

I do still run some heavy equipment at work that is based around 3-53 andf 4-53 detroits that have large oil baths ( look like a 9g trash can ).

again.. only my guesses..

Soundguy
 

We have covered this here recently.The people in the know, (not me) had reasonably sound information about how much better engine longevity is with modern filtration systems. As in Hey Dummy! don't open it up and let all the crap in when it will go another 500 hours. Watch your intake restriction indicator. My 1971 Ford has one, I know that earlier ones do not. Pretty much all manufacturers actually prefer to see their product last longer because they know that performance sells their product. If they made everything as cheaply as possible as some on here seem to believe, they would soon have no customers. As to Dan's original question, you can get a cylindrical K&N that will fit onto either the mouth of the carb or onto the intake tube. Don't forget to oil it.
 

new engines with air flow sensors do NOT like oil bath air filters. K&N filters will often ruin a maf sensor.


And the new emission diesels have maf sensors, particulate filters, egr valves and other wonderful things to go wrong. :evil:
 

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