PTO question

Pem

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Does the Ford 2000 have live power on the PTO. If not how to engage without having to grind gears. There must be a clutch somewhere to adjust. Where and How? All help and info appreciated.Pembroke
 
Ford 2000's came two ways. Either transmission drive PTO or Live PTO. The 4 speed transmission was only avaiable with the transmision drive PTO. The 6 and 8 speed transmissions usually have a dual clutch and live PTO.

When everything is adjusted correctly you should be able to feel the stages in the pedal. Push it down part way and the drive clutch disengages, the rest of the way disengages the PTO clutch.

Sounds like yours it out of adjustment or worn out or a combination of both.
 
There were two different Ford 2000 tractors, the earlier one had a 4 cylinder engine and the later one had a 3 cylinder engine.

Both the 3 and 4 cylinder Ford 2000's actually came with 3 different PTO options depending on which transmission they had.

Earlier 4 cylinder 2000:
4 speed trans - only non-live (trans driven) PTO was available
5 speed trans - both trans driven and live PTO were available
10 speed (Select-O-Speed) - only independent PTOwas available, either as 540 rpm only or as multi-speed 540/1000/ground speed.

Later 3 cylinder 2000:
4 speed trans - only non-live (trans driven) PTO was available
6 speed trans - both trans driven and live PTO were available
8 speed trans - both trans driven and live PTO were available
10 speed (Select-O-Speed) - only independent PTO was available, either as 540 rpm only or as dual speed 540/1000 or as multi-speed 540/1000/ground speed.
 
After re-reading your post, it definitely sounds like you do not have the S-O-S trans with the independent PTO.

Regardless of whether you have live or non-live PTO, you still need to stop the tractor and push in the clutch to engage and disengage the PTO lever. The difference between live and non-live is that on one with live PTO, the PTO will begin to get power when the clutch pedal is halfway out and the trans won't get power until the clutch pedal is all of the way out, and on the non-live PTO the clutch delivers power to the PTO at the same time that it delivers power to the trans. That is because on the non-live PTO the PTO is actually powered by a gear in the transmission, and in the live PTO, the PTO is driven by a separate clutch plate in a double clutch setup.
 
engine is 3 cyl. Not sure about Trans. I know it has a Hi And Low shift lever along with gear lever. Tractor is son's and I was working on bush hog for him and had trouble engaging PTO. worked clutch up and down thinking there might be a two stage clutch allowing the PTO to engage without grinding. So If the clutch is out of adjustment, How to adjust?? Thanks to all for info. Pembroke
 
So are you stopping the tractor completely and pushing the clutch all of the way down before trying to engage the PTO lever?
 
(quoted from post at 21:08:28 07/12/14) If yoy have a hight/low SAherman aux then it has a non live PTO Tractor has to be stopped to engage PTO

Since it's a 3 cylinder, I think it's more likely that he has a 6 or 8 speed with the range shifter on top of the trans next to the main shifter, but it could be a 4 speed with a Sherman.
 
(quoted from post at 20:33:31 07/11/14) engine is 3 cyl. Not sure about Trans. I know it has a Hi And Low shift lever along with gear lever. Tractor is son's and I was working on bush hog for him and had trouble engaging PTO. worked clutch up and down thinking there might be a two stage clutch allowing the PTO to engage without grinding. So If the clutch is out of adjustment, How to adjust?? Thanks to all for info. Pembroke

If it is live PTO with a two stage clutch, you still need to push the clutch pedal down all the way to engage the PTO without grinding. The two stages means that the pedal will engage just the PTO clutch when the pedal is halfway up, and then it will also engage the transmission clutch when the pedal is all of the way up. The PTO clutch is only disengaged when the pedal is all of the way down. A non-live PTO with a single clutch also needs to have the clutch pedal pushed all of the way down to engage the PTO lever without grinding. If it is grinding when the tractor is at a complete stop and the clutch pedal is all of the way down, then it is most likely a live PTO and the PTO clutch isn't disengaging.

It could be a stuck PTO clutch disk or it could be out of adjustment, or something could be work or broken inside. How much free play is there in the pedal when you begin to push it before you feel the transmission clutch begin to release?
 
I push the clutch all the way down for PTO and still wants to grind. I can engage the Hi and low shift lever and the trans lever to make the tractor move forward without grinding. I've tried the clutch pedal half way up and all the way down for PTO and still grinds. Where should I start far as adjustments on the clutch pedal? How can I tell if the PTO clutch is not engaged or stuck? Just need a lot of info on where to start looking and how to get there. Thanks. Pembroke
 
One other possibility! Might be 2 stage clutch with linkage in "transmission only" mode! Does the pedal come up real high? Are there 2 holes in the clutch linkage yoke?

Edit: It would seem that you must have the 2 stage clutch/live PTO, otherwise the PTO would not grind if the tranny didn't.
Look for the 2 holes in the clutch linkage yoke, and place the pin in the hole that rises the clutch pedal the highest, if it is not already there. If that doesn't help, then you're into the whole unstick/adjust PTO clutch issue.
 

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