milkdemcows
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Recently encountered an issue with our '65 Ford 4000. It has a front end loader on it, and has (what I think was added?) the twin lever unit, one to control a set or rear remotes and one to switch between powering the FEL and the 3-pt arms. Everything in this respect has worked fine for the two years we've had it. The only equipment I've thus far used with the tractor is a manure spreader and a 3-pt NH 615 disc mower (5 discs in a sickle-bar type setup, can raise and lower the blades). Mowed a few fields last year, all went okay.
Few days ago, mowing for the first time this year, after a couple hours the hydraulics started to seem sluggish - the mower on the 3pt, or the mower arm on the remote, wouldn't lift right away. And the couple times I needed to restart the PTO, there was a delay as well. That evening, mowing a different field, things seemed to get even more sluggish, and then finally (with everything running) the PTO quit, and I lost all hyrdraulic power as well (couldn't raise anything).
Well, wound up parking it for a couple days, went back today to check the oil level, was good, started it up, and everything was working. Gave it a bit of a test, and sure enough after about 20-30 minutes of mowing, things got sluggish again. Tested the FEL, and it was slow to move and sort of hopping as I raised it.
Consulting the shop manual, looking at troubleshooting for both the PTO and the hydraulics, the 3 issues in common that come up are oil level, control valve, or an issue with the pump. Its not oil level, and it seems to be related to heat.
Never experienced this last year. Did change the rear axle oil a week or two before mowing. (And now remembering, the shop I got it from sold me oil from their shop drum, filling containers they had on hand, and one of them had some kind of sediment in the bottom that I only saw when pouring it into the tractor...)
If something with the control valve or hydr pump, what it is about getting hot that causes things to shut down? And is fixing it something for a shop, or can it be DIY'd? Feedback much appreciated!
Few days ago, mowing for the first time this year, after a couple hours the hydraulics started to seem sluggish - the mower on the 3pt, or the mower arm on the remote, wouldn't lift right away. And the couple times I needed to restart the PTO, there was a delay as well. That evening, mowing a different field, things seemed to get even more sluggish, and then finally (with everything running) the PTO quit, and I lost all hyrdraulic power as well (couldn't raise anything).
Well, wound up parking it for a couple days, went back today to check the oil level, was good, started it up, and everything was working. Gave it a bit of a test, and sure enough after about 20-30 minutes of mowing, things got sluggish again. Tested the FEL, and it was slow to move and sort of hopping as I raised it.
Consulting the shop manual, looking at troubleshooting for both the PTO and the hydraulics, the 3 issues in common that come up are oil level, control valve, or an issue with the pump. Its not oil level, and it seems to be related to heat.
Never experienced this last year. Did change the rear axle oil a week or two before mowing. (And now remembering, the shop I got it from sold me oil from their shop drum, filling containers they had on hand, and one of them had some kind of sediment in the bottom that I only saw when pouring it into the tractor...)
If something with the control valve or hydr pump, what it is about getting hot that causes things to shut down? And is fixing it something for a shop, or can it be DIY'd? Feedback much appreciated!