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I don't know what I have but I think it's broke

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SalGuod

04-27-2014 11:21:48
68.67.86.243



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Hi,

I have a new to me 1979 Ford 445. I have hydraulic issues with the box scraper. It is very lazy to move after the engine starts, sometimes 30 minutes-any part, the rippers or anything. The front bucket works great right off the bat. Someone said it could be O-rings but I need to know who made this thing.

Can you identify who made the scraper and put the controls dead center of the seat? I am in a real pickle. I can't see any identification marks at all-I think it's been painted more than once. ( not my monster sticker )

Thanks in advance!!







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Dennis K (WA)

04-27-2014 17:50:30
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 Re: I don't know what I have but I think it's broke in reply to SalGuod, 04-27-2014 11:21:48  
Sorry I can't help you with particulars but I believe Gannon is part of 'Woods Eq' now. So that might be a place to start for books or schematics.

http://www.woodsequipment.com/

Dennis
This post was edited by Dennis K (WA) at 17:56:19 04/27/14.



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Sean in PA

04-27-2014 16:37:37
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 Re: I don't know what I have but I think it's broke in reply to SalGuod, 04-27-2014 11:21:48  
The loader is working fine because it has its own pump up in the front of the tractor and its own reservoir in the frame of the loader. It is a totally separate hydraulic system from the one that runs the 3 point hitch, and the 3 point hydraulic system is what is powering your box scraper. Dead center of the seat is the place that you can tap into the 3 point hydraulic system to add remote valves like you have. Does the 3 point lift itself also have the same problems as the remote valves for the box scraper?

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SalGuod

04-27-2014 17:23:01
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 Re: I don't know what I have but I think it's broke in reply to Sean in PA, 04-27-2014 16:37:37  
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I thought this was the 3 point lift. Do you mean the two draft and position handles? If so, not sure it's hard to tell the way it acts, been like this since I got it, not long ago. Mechanically inclined but no tractor expert to say the least.



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Bern

04-27-2014 13:12:38
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 Re: I don't know what I have but I think it's broke in reply to SalGuod, 04-27-2014 11:21:48  
Yes, that appears to be a Gannon blade and valve. However, the problem is not with either of those, but rather the tractor, specifically the pump on the LH rear of the engine. It sounds like it is losing prime overnight. Likely time for a seal kit and/or overhaul.



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SalGuod

04-27-2014 17:16:59
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 Re: I don't know what I have but I think it's broke in reply to Bern, 04-27-2014 13:12:38  
The box scraper will settle back down even while using it. Usually when you scrape a big scoop of dirt it will not raise and actually if you move any of the three center handles to include the ripper, in the up position, it will lower no matter which way you move the handle.



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charlie n

04-27-2014 12:55:37
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 Re: I don't know what I have but I think it's broke in reply to SalGuod, 04-27-2014 11:21:48  
Their both made by Gannon.Got the same setup on a 335.I've never had a problem like you describe and I've had mine since 1978.Sounds like a flow problem to me.



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SalGuod

04-27-2014 17:24:22
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 Re: I don't know what I have but I think it's broke in reply to charlie n, 04-27-2014 12:55:37  
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Where can I find a manual on this? Do you have a link or model #??



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