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Re: Ford Light Industrial tractor saga

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TONY JACOBS

04-01-2014 23:36:43
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Hello Norm , What you have is a model number 40303 serial number should be between 131000 and 171500 putting it between late 1960 to mid year 1962 before the change to the blue and buff Industrial colors . The Sherman lever is modified Combo shifter not a reverser lever it still could have a reverser in it . The foot throttle is the correct 1st design for the red and buff Industrials . 14.9 and 16.9 were both optional sizes and either could have been correct . The Industrials came with a fixed drawbar setup but could be ordered with a swinging drawbar setup also . What ever the fenders are from they are not Ford and just scrap metal . As for the wheel weights Ford did make one piece cast center weights for the 28" wheels that weighed 600 lbs each during 1958-1960 listed only for the Heavy Duty Industrials 1801/4040 (I have a set of those and have only seen about 6 or 8 sets) but I have never seen ones for 24" wheels and Ford does list them as available but it does not mean one of the Foundries didn't cast some and sell them especially if you are on the west coast or if the tractor could be traced down to have been on the west coast . Where are you located ? Get it running and see what it sounds like it could be parts or a runner . I have both Light Duty and Heavy Duty Industrials both Red/Gray , Red/Buff ,and Blue/Buff Loaders , Loader/Backhoes , Dozer/Backhoes , Crane booms , Forklifts and Four Wheel Drives . Thanks Tony

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Norm43

04-02-2014 06:51:31
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 Re: Ford Light Industrial tractor saga in reply to TONY JACOBS, 04-01-2014 23:36:43  

Thanks Tony .... I had heard from my friend Jim out here in Utah that you might have an expert opinion or two or three about Ford Industrial tractors. As I said this is my first encounter with one. Its been very interesting. Here are a couple of more pictures (hit the limit last night I guess). One shows the serial number and model number, you were right on both. The other shows an angle shot of the inside of the wheel. You can see how far the casting comes in. Is this how your 28's are? Do your 28's have the same casting pattern? I have found one picture on the internet that looks like the same pattern as these. Interesting that you should mention the west coast. In talking with the gent I got it from and some of his buddies the story goes that this tractor came to central Utah from a Dairy farm in California up to Utah. The gent who replaced the head gasket claims to have worked on that dairy farm and now lives in Utah. I have no reason not to believe that story. Someone has painted the tim blue but underneath it is the buff color. What would the grill have been? Doing internet searches I have seen mostly the later square pattern design but have seen two or three with the earlier Jubilee style grill. I see different fenders on the internet as well, what fender did this come with originally, the 800 series or did it have the 900 series?

If it starts and drives I will probably try to bring it back to life, especially if it is a rare specimen. I just can't stand to see these good old things get scrapped so I may just pass it along to someone else. Iv'e collected a few old jewels along the way saying they world make good projects when I retired. Well at retired last year at 70 and now don't have as much enthusiasm to tear a tractor clear down, especially a heavy one like this. My Ford collection includes a 740 row crop with a creeper Sherman, three Jubilee's (1952, 53 and 54), a 960 in progress and 4 8n 6 cylinder Funk conversions.

Thanks again for your information and advise. ... Norm

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TONY JACOBS

04-02-2014 21:26:10
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 Re: Ford Light Industrial tractor saga in reply to Norm43, 04-02-2014 06:51:31  
Hello Norm , Yes my 28" Cast centers do you look like your 24" ones . The Sheet Metal on your tractor is just standard 801 sheet metal NOT 800 or 900 sheet metal . The grille is the one everybody calls the EGG CRATE GRILLE your standard 801 series grille . 800 series sheet metal and fenders are not the same as 801 series sheet metal and fenders although they bolt on between the two . As far as the colors go it is the EXACT SAME as a red and gray 801 Ag tractor just replace the gray with buff paint . They are not rare but production numbers are far less then Ag tractors so they are more uncommon . My 1960 40303S GAS #131217 with Elenco 4x4 kit is now in Texas , and I still have 2 other 1962 4030's #166069 4 spd/combo and 170028 SOS both 4x4 . With the exception of the rear fenders everything looks to correct and original including the engine . If it runs and drives good fix it if not well part it out or go get the other Industrial you were talking about . If you were closer I would like the wheel centers if you were going to part just because they are for 24" wheels which all but my 2 1958 tractors have on them . The 58 1841-D-S has the cast centers on it . Thanks Tony

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