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4000 Wide Front Tire Clearance - Thread 2

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Tom Bond

02-24-2014 19:14:00
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Switched the tires on the front and clearances were exactly the same as before switch. So I decided to try someone elses suggestion and flipped them around so they are now dish out. Now there's about 4" additional clearance on each side. Don't think it will hurt to run them like that and the weights go back on without issue. I thought maybe the wheel nuts might of been in the way but they're fine. Now the fronts are a bit wider than the rears but don't think that should bother anything or I could just flip the rears around too. Or since there wasn't really any actual problems in the first place with rubbing or anything like that, maybe I should just put them back the way they were and quit being so picky about how it looks. Any suggestions?





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Dollar Bill

02-26-2014 03:33:41
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 Re: 4000 Wide Front Tire Clearance - Thread 2 in reply to Tom Bond, 02-24-2014 19:14:00  
Okay, you've eliminated different back spacing on the wheels - Didn't really have to R&R wheels for that measurement. But now you know the lug nuts aren't rusted in place :-)

Haven't seen any discussion on the depth of hub as compared from one side to the other. Measure the distance from the face of the hub to the dust seal.

Looking at your photos, I'm beginning to lean toward the bent spindle assessment.

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Ultradog MN

02-26-2014 03:06:09
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 Re: 4000 Wide Front Tire Clearance - Thread 2 in reply to Tom Bond, 02-24-2014 19:14:00  
I'll join the chorus here and say I never liked the way they looked turned out.
As for more strain on your spindles I'm sure that is true. But on a tractor that is not wearing a loader I doubt it makes much of a difference.



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David G

02-25-2014 16:23:19
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 Re: 4000 Wide Front Tire Clearance - Thread 2 in reply to Tom Bond, 02-24-2014 19:14:00  
Having the tires out will add a lot of stress to your steering and spindles. I would fix the problem.



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Shetland Sheepdog

02-25-2014 11:09:21
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 Re: 4000 Wide Front Tire Clearance - Thread 2 in reply to Tom Bond, 02-24-2014 19:14:00  
Have you checked the key/keyway between the spindle top & steering arm? It would take very little movement there to make the difference in your clearance issue. If the steering arm is good and tight, you probably would not notice any movement under normal conditions. Just a thought, HTH, Dave



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Brian Allen

02-25-2014 07:36:47
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 Re: 4000 Wide Front Tire Clearance - Thread 2 in reply to Tom Bond, 02-24-2014 19:14:00  
Tom, I just read your original thread, I agree with the other posters, your back space on your rim is probably the issue, unless you have a bent spindle.

I will leave my original reply here, it may help someone else.

Brian

Tom

Rule of thumb
Generally you want the front wheels set narrow, as it is much easier to navigate trees, obstacles, and for plowing etc.

As for misalignment try this:

Center the steering wheel, (turn the steering wheel lock to lock and count the turns, then move it back to exactly the half way point), then adjust the left wheel until it is square to the tractor, (a board or broom handle sitting on two of your favourite beverage cans works well for this), then measure and square the right wheel to the left. {Note you should have between 1/8" to 1/4" toe in to make the tractor steer better}. (front edge of the wheel measures this much less than the back edge.
If this does not solve your problem you have other issues; post back.
Brian
This post was edited by Brian Allen at 07:46:39 02/25/14 2 times.

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JF in CT

02-25-2014 05:12:35
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 Re: 4000 Wide Front Tire Clearance - Thread 2 in reply to Tom Bond, 02-24-2014 19:14:00  
I agree with most of the others here. You are going to put an unnecessary strain on the spindle assembly. Most arrangements like that are correct when an imaginary line drawn through the spildle pivot axis intersects the center of the tire contact patch where it touches the ground. Easier steering and less pulling as you hit bumps in the ground. I think you would be better off finding the source of the misalignment in the first place. I notice the steering knuckles are aligned with a keyway. Perhaps one of them is fractured or missing. Possibly at one time in the past the spindle was slightly twisted by an impact or something. If so it may even be possible to find an offset keyway (or have one made) to correct the knuckle offset then just realign.

Jim

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johnpop1

02-25-2014 04:08:19
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 Re: 4000 Wide Front Tire Clearance - Thread 2 in reply to Tom Bond, 02-24-2014 19:14:00  
I could be wrong, but why would you want to put added stress on the spindles and wheel bearings when you could just re-adjust the front axle?



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NNP

02-25-2014 04:04:58
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 Re: 4000 Wide Front Tire Clearance - Thread 2 in reply to Tom Bond, 02-24-2014 19:14:00  
I looked at your other pics and agree, probably different rim offsets or manufacturer.

Tires, even the same size are different too from different manufacturers
Size? I have a 650 that 6-16 are fine- some brands of 6.50-16

will rub, some won't.

Check your wheel bearings and races for wear on the tight side.

Me, I'd put em back. wider means more strain on the front end, especially hitting holes or dirt clumps.

and 1/4" or 3 feet, clearance is clearance.........

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Dean

02-24-2014 20:06:30
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 Re: 4000 Wide Front Tire Clearance - Thread 2 in reply to Tom Bond, 02-24-2014 19:14:00  
I do not like the look of reversed front wheels on vintage Fords, especially with wheel weights.

Dean



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