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Re: Timing Simms pump

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Mbaggs

11-07-2013 08:16:38
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Awesome, I think I have it now...#1 coming up on compression, the timing mark should show in the window in the bell housing, and at that point the mark on the tab of the pump should line up with the mark on the coupler.

Thanks so much!




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Majorman

11-07-2013 08:54:57
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 Re: Timing Simms pump in reply to Mbaggs, 11-07-2013 08:16:38  
That is it exactly. Just another tip, you are on Number 1 when the clamp bolt holding the pump drive to the shaft is below the shaft.



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Mbaggs

11-07-2013 13:33:44
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 Re: Timing Simms pump in reply to Majorman, 11-07-2013 08:54:57  
An additional question, I pulled the rocker cover (working solo here) and rotated the engine until the #1 ex valve started to open, then back off a bit to close it...should be at or neat TDC...

Question is, should there be a 'TDC" mark on the flywheel?...I can locate it..but still might be off a few degrees.

Thanks again.



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Mbaggs

11-07-2013 14:29:34
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 Re: Timing Simms pump in reply to Mbaggs, 11-07-2013 13:33:44  
Should have said 'I can't" locate a TDC mark



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Mbaggs

11-07-2013 15:22:24
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 Re: Timing Simms pump in reply to Mbaggs, 11-07-2013 14:29:34  
Okay...we're having some contact now!!!

I started off i your suggested spot, had my nehew come over and keep rotating the crank BTDC and finally came to a line a stamping that is either a DC or BC or OC...something "C"...is this where I time the pump too?

It appears as I mentioned before, it would correspond to me pulling the pump and re-indexing it-based on how the pump was rotated in the coupler.

2nd question...mercy...do I use the "center punched dot" on the coupler, or what appears to be a chisel line/scribe?

Both will require me to re-index the pump...but appear to be about a tooth off from each other (guesstimate).

Thanks.

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Mbaggs

11-07-2013 15:36:27
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 Re: Timing Simms pump in reply to Mbaggs, 11-07-2013 15:22:24  

Here's what I'm referring to as she sits now...



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Majorman

11-08-2013 00:15:02
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 Re: Timing Simms pump in reply to Mbaggs, 11-07-2013 15:36:27  
The flywheel should be marked in a series of degrees leading to TDC. The mark on the pump will be on the pump side of the coupling. Will see if I can get some pictures for you.



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Mbaggs

11-08-2013 11:05:28
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 Re: Timing Simms pump in reply to Majorman, 11-08-2013 00:15:02  

I think what I'm seeing is in the top pic, not in the bottom pic.



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Mbaggs

11-08-2013 12:09:25
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 Re: Timing Simms pump in reply to Mbaggs, 11-08-2013 11:05:28  
I found the timing marks and have it at 21 in the notch...my marks on pump side of the coupling are way off from the pump timing tab (similar, but worse in the one pic I showed "where I left off")...I assume I have to pull the pump back a bit and rotate it so the bolts use the other set of "gaps" in the coupler, I certainly don't have enough adjustment to get the slots lined up.



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Mbaggs

11-07-2013 15:41:53
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 Re: Timing Simms pump in reply to Mbaggs, 11-07-2013 15:36:27  
And the more I look at it, it alsmost seems that the pump was pulled via the adjusting bolts, and not put in correctly...gonna see if removing the bolts alow me to get it where I "think" it should be...

Good times!



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