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3000 up running

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FordTractorMan

11-06-2013 22:07:51
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Finally got my 3000 diesel all together & running. Only got to drive it around the driveway this evening before church, but I"m looking forward to using it. Glad to get it going, as it & my Chinese compact are the only ones I"ve got running right now. 8700 goes into my shop Friday so I can (finally) get ready to hard blok it. Hoping to have it on its feet next week. TW 35 started knocking loud last week & pouring out enough blowby that it looked like it was on fire. It"s next in line after 8700. Suspect loose sleeve, but have to tear down to see. Need to work in the 8000 sometime, too. It"s got water in the oil. Age and use has a way of catching up to things... On the upside, got all my crops in! Enough crying.

Different subject: How do I know if my 3000 has thermostart? How can you tell if the intake manifold has the heating element installed in it - any visible clues? Also, the throttle won"t stay open, it creeps back towards idle. Is it a simple matter of tightening the nut on the bottom of the throttle rod? The 8000 has a friction disk. This 3000 is my first and only small Ford.

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Brian Allen

11-09-2013 09:53:42
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to FordTractorMan, 11-06-2013 22:07:51  
Rustytractorguy

Tubing is measured on the OD outside diameter.

So it would be 3/16 OD.

Brian



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Sean in PA

11-07-2013 05:43:24
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to FordTractorMan, 11-06-2013 22:07:51  
I would assume that it's fairly low pressure in the return line. It is open to the vented tank at the end, so you will get flow but not a lot of pressure. In order to get high pressure you need a restriction to the flow. If the return line gets clogged and pressure does build in the return line the engine generally won't run well, if at all.

You should be able to use steel brake line, as many folks have used that to replace their power steering lines and the power steering creates more pressure than the return line should ever have.

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Rustytractorguy

11-07-2013 07:07:36
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to Sean in PA, 11-07-2013 05:43:24  
That"s a good point about the fuel tank mean event and therefore not having much pressure in the return line. I appreciate the commonsense as always!



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Ultradog MN

11-07-2013 03:49:50
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to FordTractorMan, 11-06-2013 22:07:51  
Good to hear you got it running.
As for the thermostart, just look at the intake manifold. If it has it it will have what looks kinda like a spark plug. The manifold below does boit have one - just has a flat plug where it would go.
To add it you would need the plug, the wiring and a small 1/8" metal tube that connects with a tee to the injector return line up by the fuel tank.
Just tighten the nut on the bottom of the throttle rod a couple/few turns to firm up the throttle handle. Assuming it still has the friction disc there. CNH is awful proud of those friction discs so I have made a couple out of leather from an old boot.

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soundguy

11-07-2013 06:21:07
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to Ultradog MN, 11-07-2013 03:49:50  
ditto on the boot!


remember back when you could buy bulk leather pieces and scraps. many pieces were the size of full sheets of paper and such. The last time I saw that was? 20+ ys ago. i still have 1-2 pieces in a bag that I cut up for stuff like that. even some custom OLD gaskets that were leather! ( we have an old littleford/etnyre asphalt (liquid) distribuiter machine that uses leather gaskets between the spray bar sections.

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Ultradog MN

11-07-2013 06:25:34
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to soundguy, 11-07-2013 06:21:07  
If you really want to be classy cut a piece out of one of your old Blue Suede Shoes. :)



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FordTractorMan

11-07-2013 21:19:17
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to Ultradog MN, 11-07-2013 06:25:34  
Looks like I've got it. Think I'll hook up my tester tomorrow and see if it's getting juice. Be getting cold before too long.



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FordTractorMan

11-07-2013 06:15:03
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to Ultradog MN, 11-07-2013 03:49:50  
Thanks, ultra. I'll check it out today.



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rustytractorguy

11-07-2013 05:23:19
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to Ultradog MN, 11-07-2013 03:49:50  
Here's a follow up question I had about the same thing. What is the PSI on the return side of the injector. CNH wants arms, legs, and your first born for the line ($400+) to the thermostart plug so I figure I'd create my own.



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Ultradog MN

11-07-2013 06:20:02
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to rustytractorguy, 11-07-2013 05:23:19  
I have an original line here but couldn't find it with a quick search.
I did find a pic of the glow plug in a 3600 manifold though. They are the same as the 3000.
As Sean says, there is no pressure on it.
I'm sure you could go to a hardware store and get everything you need.
About 3' of 1/8" copper tubing, a 1/8" compression fitting where it fits on the glow plug, an 1/8" Tee, about 12" of 1/8" fuel line and some hose clamps.
You could use steel line too but copper would suffice.
Cut the return line up near where it goes under the cowel and add the tee. Attach your new tubing then thread it down and along the top of the head to the glow plug.
Very, very easy task.
Hardware store will also have those little pinch open hose clamps like in the 2nd photo which I like for a neater job.

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Ultradog MN

11-07-2013 06:22:49
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to Ultradog MN, 11-07-2013 06:20:02  
On second thought, it might be 3/16" lines and fittings. Someone here will know.



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Fordfarmer

11-07-2013 07:26:35
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to Ultradog MN, 11-07-2013 06:22:49  
Yes, 3/16".



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Rustytractorguy

11-08-2013 01:21:57
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 Re: 3000 up running in reply to Fordfarmer, 11-07-2013 07:26:35  
Just to verify 3/16 ID?



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