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Re: 961 starting system question

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JMOR

07-30-2013 07:02:28
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Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeYou mention 2 wires on the I terminal......this is not according to schematic diagram. You mention no wires other than battery cable on the large solenoid stud. This suggest to me that one of the two on I actually belongs on the battery side large stud. This would explain your conditions, as without wire on battery side large stud, there is no battery power to ign switch or anything else other than starter. That does not explain reading on dash voltmeter, but I do not know where it is connected?

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Freewheelin'

07-30-2013 07:21:40
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 Re: 961 starting system question in reply to JMOR, 07-30-2013 07:02:28  
There is another wire on the large solenoid stud. The two wires on the "I" terminal are joined inside the rubber connector and thus appear to be factory. There have been changes made such as replacing the fuel gauge with a voltmeter and it has an alternator instead of a generator. However, the tractor started and ran just fine for over a year. It suddenly went dead.



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Will Gumbert

07-30-2013 07:50:09
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 Re: 961 starting system question in reply to Freewheelin', 07-30-2013 07:21:40  
It has an alternator? This changes things because it should have also been converted to 12V negative ground. Are you sure it had been running for a year with a 6V battery? -Will



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Freewheelin'

07-30-2013 08:22:20
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 Re: 961 starting system question in reply to Will Gumbert, 07-30-2013 07:50:09  
My friend replaced the original battery with a new 6 volt so I"m not sure what it was. However, the tractor turns over just fine with the new battery and two jumpers on the small solenoid terminals - one hot and one ground. But not when I pull either jumper. I"m going to try jumping across the solenoid large posts and verify there is 6 volts coming from the keyed switch.



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JMOR

07-30-2013 08:31:53
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 Re: 961 starting system question in reply to Freewheelin', 07-30-2013 08:22:20  
So, in summation, we are blind, working on something where we haven't a clue as to what modifications have been made & thus no way of knowing how it is currently wired. Two wires where one belongs, alternator, positive or negative ground, 6v or 12v? Outcome? Been to Vegas lately? :roll:



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Will Gumbert

07-30-2013 08:52:42
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 Re: 961 starting system question in reply to JMOR, 07-30-2013 08:31:53  
Right. Freewheelin, seems like the best thing would be to trace the wiring out, draw a wiring diagram as it now is, (maybe print and mark up the one JMOR already posted) take a picture of that and attach it to a new post, then maybe we can suggest a way to sort it out correctly. -Will



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JMOR

07-30-2013 07:44:39
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 Re: 961 starting system question in reply to Freewheelin', 07-30-2013 07:21:40  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeSounds like more here than "suddenly went dead". " The solenoid and wires had been removed by my friend so I"m not sure which goes where. " Since the diagram shows only one, not 2 wires on that small solenoid terminal, I would find out where the other end of each wire is connected.



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