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Re: Ford 641 Steering Popping

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DollarBill

07-13-2013 02:25:50
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Patti, as Coupe indicated it sounds like the steering shaft bearings have finally given up.
I wouldn't say it's a difficult repair - Maybe time consuming because of everything you must remove to get to the steering box but once you get it on the bench it's a very straight forward job of replacing the worn parts - Usually just an upper race and roller and the bottom roller assembly - Bottom race can be difficult to remove and seldom really needs it. Remember this isn't a high speed assembly.

I would also recommend after rebuilding the box to fill it with corn head grease rather than 90wt. Drill/tap one of the thru bolts for a Zerk or buy one already converted.

Most I&T repair manuals will cover the steps for the procedure but post back if we can help you further.

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Michaels Dad

07-13-2013 06:35:40
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 Re: Ford 641 Steering Popping in reply to DollarBill, 07-13-2013 02:25:50  
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I just added a zerk fitting where the oil fill plug is.

Corn grease? Local term. Asked some farm guys here in Texas and they've never heard of it. I just used regular grease and pumped till it came out under the steering wheel.



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soundguy

07-13-2013 14:06:15
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 Re: Ford 641 Steering Popping in reply to Michaels Dad, 07-13-2013 06:35:40  
corn head grease is not a 'local term'

it's a jd product.



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Michaels Dad

07-13-2013 14:19:45
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 Re: Ford 641 Steering Popping in reply to soundguy, 07-13-2013 14:06:15  
Never had a need to go into a Deer dealer, they don't sell many Ford parts there.

Like I said, chassis grease is good for me.



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soundguy

07-13-2013 15:04:52
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 Re: Ford 641 Steering Popping in reply to Michaels Dad, 07-13-2013 14:19:45  
but chassis grease is not appropriate for your steering box.

in 62 or so.. ford put out a service bulleting specifying a NLGI 0# grease. cornhead grease is a poly urea based 0# ep grease. quite ideal. You can also get ep 00 # greases from many sources.. like snapper dealers and stens lube dealers.

average every day chassis tube grease is nlgi 2# and will cavitate and make a hole around the parts needing the lube.. leaving only residual film ont he parts needing the lube.

better than dry and toasty.. but not as good as oil or light grease lubed.

as for the jd dealer. you'd be surprised. in days past you could walk in and get parts for MS carbs.. your pre 65 ford came with a ms carb. :)

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Michaels Dad

07-14-2013 04:53:11
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 Re: Ford 641 Steering Popping in reply to soundguy, 07-13-2013 15:04:52  
Ah hah, now I know the type you are referring to.

I use it in my Sthil hedge clippers.

What you are saying now makes perfect sense.

I'll pick up a couple of tubes and purge out what's in there now.
This post was edited by Michaels Dad at 07:00:16 07/14/13.



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soundguy

07-15-2013 06:52:34
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 Re: Ford 641 Steering Popping in reply to Michaels Dad, 07-14-2013 04:53:11  
if you add in that 0 or 00 lube.. which is what many lawn products dealer sell, that will be fine.

it will soften the #2 grease up and make a slurry.

just keep topping the 00/2 off with 00 and you should be good.

will matter not if ther eis still a slug of #2 against the wall taking up space. that might actually HELP seal the leacky sector seals and keep the 00 grease right around the ballnut where it should be.

just top her off now and then and she should be good.

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Michaels Dad

07-15-2013 08:27:51
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 Re: Ford 641 Steering Popping in reply to soundguy, 07-15-2013 06:52:34  
Thanks for the info.

Will hit the JD dealer today.



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soundguy

07-15-2013 08:38:24
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 Re: Ford 641 Steering Popping in reply to Michaels Dad, 07-15-2013 08:27:51  
good luck



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Texas!

07-13-2013 07:15:37
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 Re: Ford 641 Steering Popping in reply to Michaels Dad, 07-13-2013 06:35:40  
John Deere Corn Head grease. It"s a NLGI 00 grade grease.



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