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Re: 545 hydraulics and transmission fluid

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Sean in PA

07-06-2013 10:49:20
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For the rear axle/differential, you'll want to use a UTF that meets or exceeds the Ford New Holland M2C134D specification, as that fluid serves multiple functions, including hydraulic fluid if it has a 3 point lift, plus gear lubrication for the differential and reduction gears and coolant for the inboard brakes, and you want something that has the correct additives so that it works well for all 3 functions.

If your transmission is the auto reversing torque converter trans, then you will want to use an M2C134D compliant UTF in there as well, but if you have a manual reverser or a straight manual transmission, then you can use gear oil or 134 compliant UTF.
If you have power steering, you should use 134 compliant UTF in there as well.
If your 545 has a loader with a front mounted pump and the reservoir for the loader in the frame of the loader, then any regular hydraulic fluid will work fine for that system, but you can run 134 compliant UTF in there as well.
Many folks use the 134 compliant UTF in everything except the engine crankcase as it makes it easier to only have to keep one kind of fluid on hand and you don't have to remember which one goes where.

EDIT: - SORRY. Meant to say IF the Case Hy-Trans says on the label that it meets or exceeds the 134 specification you should be fine with that in everything.
This post was edited by Sean in PA at 05:55:28 07/07/13.

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Rustytractorguy

07-09-2013 05:15:58
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 Re: 545 hydraulics and transmission fluid in reply to Sean in PA, 07-06-2013 10:49:20  
After looking at multiple UTFs, it looks like HyTran (and whatever NH calls it) is the replacement for 134D, as you stated. If I wanted Deere fluid it would be Hy-Guard. My local dealer also recommended HyTrans since they don"t carry the NH labeled fluid since its all CNH anyways.



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RickB

07-06-2013 14:25:12
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 Re: 545 hydraulics and transmission fluid in reply to Sean in PA, 07-06-2013 10:49:20  
That's where I have a problem with the old "meets or exceeds" line. A 10 wt oil won't act like a 10W-30 oil, period. Too thin. CNH's new MasterTran Ultraction oil that replaces both 134 and HyTran Ultra for all but a few applications is most definitely NOT a 10W base oil. It has the same viscosity profile as 134 with the additive package similar to HyTran Ultra.



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rustytractorguy

07-07-2013 04:32:16
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 Re: 545 hydraulics and transmission fluid in reply to RickB, 07-06-2013 14:25:12  
I never thought of using a 10 wt oil in the engine. Keep in mind the "10W" in 10W-30 does not stand for 10 weight. The w = winter, meaning the oil has the viscosity of a 10 weight but has the protection of 30. I plan to run SAE 30 monograde, diesel rated oil in the motor.

I have no issue with the "meets or exceeds" specs. I highly doubt CNH is producing the exact same lube now that they did in 1979 when the tractor was produced and manual printed.

Therefore, that is what I am curious about now. What is the currently in production oil that is the replacement?

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RickB

07-07-2013 07:58:52
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 Re: 545 hydraulics and transmission fluid in reply to rustytractorguy, 07-07-2013 04:32:16  
My discussion was strictly limited to hydraulic oils for your tractor's various reservoirs. Your findings validate my recommendations.



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