Harmlar

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from previous post i know the brake drum has to come off to replace the axle housing on 631.
the drum on my 631 should have screws it does not the hub must be removed to get the drum off can you tell by the pic what tractor the drum is for
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Sure looks like the drum on my 660.

Remove the axle extension to see the screws that are underneath them (that is if they are still there - they often get left off).

Once the extension is off, the screws are out (they can be a bear), and the brakes are backed off, you can get the drum off with several more than gentle taps with a BFH. Is that what you are trying to do?
 
(quoted from post at 04:31:30 04/29/13) from previous post i know the brake drum has to come off to replace the axle housing on 631.
the drum on my 631 should have screws it does not the hub must be removed to get the drum off can you tell by the pic what tractor the drum is for


If you are replacing the trumpet (axle housing) the brake drum does not have to come off... If it does I am open as to why... I believe your hang up is the brake actuator shaft that goes in the backing plate it stays in the backing plate,,,, the other end slips into the rear housing... You disconnect what ever actuates it (pedal linkage) and it comes with the assembly (axle, backing plate and bearing support)...
 
I agree with Hobo, You don't need to get the drum off to replace the trumpet. Looking at your other thread, You have the bolts off on the backside, the assembly should just pull out. But most get really stuck on the shims.
 
it will come out as a unit but it's going to be much lighter with that AXLE SPACER and drum off. your call.

hobo gave you good advise as to what may be hanigng it up.

ps.. that thing on the drum is not a hub.. it's a spacer!
 
have you tried tapping on it?

this is why many of us told you to remove the drum. less weight to deal with. less mass to move when fidgeting it out.

again. your call.
 
Good advice to remove the drum it has to be removed from the trumphet anyway yes i have done a little more then tapping on it with a rubber mallet the brake has been released with adjuster and i can turn the drum like i mentioned it about 13/4 inch out from the trumphet still hung up
 
There are no screws holding the brake drums to the axle flange on a 631 or any other X01 series tractor. Ford had quit using them and was using the flat spring steel washers just like a car uses to hold the drums on.
If your brake actuating rods are disconnected the entire axle/brake assembly should come out of the trumpet. In your previous post you had a photo that showed that you have removed all 9 of the axle retaining nuts. One or more of the studs is probably hanging up on the shim stack. Take a couple of flat screwdrivers and stick them in between the flange on the trumpet and the shim stack. Use the screwdrivers to pry the axle and shims away from the trumpet flange. Move the screwdrivers around and keep prying. You should be able separate it.
 
just got done pulling and tapping still won't budge
sounds like it is hug up on the other end of the axle
 
Well i went in the house had two more cups of coffee and went back out to pull and hammer now got it out at my age just a little short of the ole muscle now when i get ready to put it back in will it line up ok
 
at my age just a little short of the ole muscle now

I hear you on that age comment - I just replaced the front axle on my 660. I just can't move that cast iron like I would have 50 years ago. Sore for two days afterwards. My shoulder still hurts.

In any case, your axle should slip right into the differential. Sometimes you have to stand on your head and drink a few more cups of coffee to get the splines lined up. But once you do - thunk, its in.

I would check everything out now that its apart. I should not have come out that hard. See if you can find the cause, then correct it.

Also, when you put it back together, check the end play on the axle. If my memory is any good, it should be about .020. Too little and the two axles will drag on each other, too much and its hard on the bearing. End play is adjusted by adding or deleting shims. Post if you need help on that.
 
that's why most of us advised pulling the brake drum and that axle spacer.

it's alot of metal to move.

I wear a back brace now and can't pull entire assemblies like I could a few years ago.

same with hammering.. if you have less mass to move. it moves easier..

just curious.. what's wrong with the axle trumpet anyway..
 
i have bigger and heavy tools but I'm only 1/2 the man i use to be. all kiddin aside didn't want to pound on the brake drum to hard with big hammer for fear might damage it
 
i hear ya on the half the man thing.

lately i'm wearing a back brace full time and ankle and knee braces.



the drum will hold up good to tapping with a maul. I've found the rubber mallet bounces back and doesn't have enough mass some times.

for good saftey.. get a deadblow hammer.. no bounce.. and it still can have good mass.
 

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