Couple of Dual Clutch Questions

Laneman

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I finally got the '74 3000 diesel split, getting ready to replace trans clutch. Thank you forum members for helping me get this far. Working from IT manual so I have some questions.
1. Clutch release shaft has no spring, don't all models have one? will attach photo
2. Any advice/tools needed for replacing rear main and input shaft seals?
3. PTO clutch disc appears good, works good, 3/16 lining remaining on each side. OK to leave in?
4. Best source for clutch disc, throwout bearing and seals?

Thanks
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I never had to replace a disc, but in reading about it, I
understand that you have to get the clutch assy set up right so
that the clutch pedal will activate/deactivate both discs properly
in the length of the clutch pedal movement. I have Ford manuals
up the gazoo and instructions and all are in there but I wouldn't
attempt it and I'm at least a "fair to middlin" mechanic.

Sources of info said that to have it done by someone who has the
equip and know how is well worth the money. Personally, I'd
take the advice because when I do a job and think I'm finished, I
want to be finished, not have to go back into it.

HTH,
Mark
 
Replace the whole thing and be done with it.The pressure plate has to be toast and the springs have been so hot they have lost their tension. Pay now or pay later. Why not buy your parts from this site. They have a good price.
 

1. Clutch release looks the same as on XX1 series. I have been into two of mine and they look the same and they have a spring on the shaft.

2. I have done rear main on 9000 appears from parts book to be the same type as yours. They list a special tool but it is easy enough to do with common sense. trans input appears very similar. It was no big deal.

I agree, with this site for parts. CNH is to me only a last resort now. I used to try to support them to try to help keep parts coming for old tractors, but it appears to me that now they would just like for us to go away.
 
Hello Laneman , 1)Clutch release shaft should have a spring on it , go see CHN . 2)Is the rear main leaking ? If not leave it alone . If it is just follow the manual not that big of a deal . Trans. seals are simple . 3)DO NOT REUSE THE DISC , REPLACE IT . PLAIN AND SIMPLE . 4)Best source is CNH FOR EVERYTHING or Call Sam @ TCM 1-800-447-2161 FOR THE CLUTCH KIT . It is a pain sometimes dealing with CNH if you do not have a good dealer or if you do not buy a lot of parts BUT as the old saying goes you get what you pay for . If you choose to put a cheap CHINA clutch in your tractor you will be replacing it again because it will look like it does now . The price is cheap because the parts are cheap sh*t . Spend the money , Do it right the first time and you will not have to do it over again . Thanks Tony
 
Don't be surprised if CNH's clutches are made in China too. A lot of their parts are. John Deere is worse. I work on all brands and you might be surprised where the parts come from. Very little made in USA any more.
 
Just buy the kit from this site.
It will come with both clutches and a new pressure plate. Also comes with new throw out bearing and pilot bearing and a plastic alignment tool.
Yes you should have a spring on that throw out bearing.
I always replace the rear main seal and both tranny input seals. None of them are hard to do.
From here on out if I split one for a clutch I will definately install new soft plugs in the back of the engine. There are two of them in the back of the head and one behind the flywheel in the block. Unless you have the old style block with the screw in plugs then leave them alone.
This winter we split my friend Kenny's 4600 to install new input seals and inspect the clutch. No more than got it back together and running and the soft plug behind the flywheel began to leak. Grrr!
I mentioned in your other thread that my pto disc looked good but would not spin the bush hog.
I brought it to the dealer to see about adjusting it and they said it was out of spec.
The drive disc is $70, pto disc is around $100 plus 1 hour dealer shop time to install/adjust it.
That's when I decieded to go with a new kit from this site.
 
A 1974 3000 won't have an internal return spring; the return spring is external after Oct 1969. Even the guru's here are wrong once in a while.
 
I am fully aware that some of CHN clutches are made in CHINA and return them when possible and that's why I listed a GOOD AMERICAN MADE REBUILDER ALSO , but the last 75 3000 that I put a double clutch in last summer came from CNH and it was made in ENGLAND where many of the three cylinder tractor parts still come from . So if you want to support CHINA go ahead I do EVERYTHING I possibly can NOT TO SUPPORT THEM and SUPPORT the USA , MY COUNTRY maybe everybody else should put a little effort into that also and if this site or any other site I go to does want to support the USA by promoting all of this poor quality CHINA JUNK then I will not support them either , especially since I am not paid to be here .
 
I agree with what you say,but I don't have that option. My nerest dealer is a 130 mile round trip. I have to rely on the guy on the other end to send me what I order and pay to have it shipped. I can't afford to have every item I buy shipped back because I don't like where it is made.About 90% of the Ford parts I get are also Made in the UK,but I don't get them from NH.
 

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