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Re: Technically challenged SOS repair

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jeff pk

04-16-2013 16:03:36
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So I got the cover off, but think I maybe blew it. Was releasing the Band 2 adjusting screw per manual instructions and think I may have brought it out too far---I heard something drop behind there and when looking at fig FO212 I see #17 strut there. Did that fall down, and is there any way to get it back short of a split and teardown?
There was NO spring pressure at all behind the cover. Both servos are firmly in their slots---they did not pop out at all. The valve pin also seems intact---interlock valve (#1 FO211) moves along the pin axis only.

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Larry NCKS

04-16-2013 17:13:49
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to jeff pk, 04-16-2013 16:03:36  
I've forgotten - why did we suggest this pin to begin with? Are you missing 5,6,7 & 8? If so remind us which tractor you have again. If this is the scenario, B2 is failing to apply for some reason. The little pin is the most common culprit. Since this is a spring applied band, one would guess a sticking B2 valve keeping hydraulic pressure applied as the next most likely cause. Either that or the band is shot, broken or not adjusted properly.
Since you believe you've dropped a strut anyway, you'll likely get the chance to look the innards over well. Check it all out. Let us know what you find.

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jeff pk

04-16-2013 18:01:24
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to Larry NCKS, 04-16-2013 17:13:49  
Yes, it was going to neutral in 5,6,7,and 8. The Model is 881 gold demo. Does it sound to you like I dropped a strut? Is there a way to be sure I dropped a strut short of putting it back together and trying it out?

I'm not sure I'm up for anything major on this transmission---
not with this cryptic manual that has no "Caution" warning when it says to loosen the band adjustment screw.

Here's what the manual says: "Remove the lock nut and sealing washer from band 2 adjusting screw; then back screw out until it is free"

I backed it out until it was free and the strut drops off???

That's just terrible instructions.

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Larry NCKS

04-16-2013 18:09:23
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to jeff pk, 04-16-2013 18:01:24  
I don't own any IT manuals so can't help on that one.

If you heard something drop, I'm guessing it was the strut. If you turn the B2 adjusting screw back in and it goes considerably farther than it was, you'll have a definite answer.

Not sure where you're located. If you're close I'd be glad to take a look see.



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jeff pk

04-16-2013 18:20:36
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to Larry NCKS, 04-16-2013 18:09:23  
Thanks for offering to look it over.

I tried screwing it back in thinking the servo might extend out, but it just stops screwing. It's hard to tell if it's going in much further than original as the cover is off.

I'm in Oregon.



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Larry NCKS

04-16-2013 18:23:22
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to jeff pk, 04-16-2013 18:20:36  
OK, here's another suggestion. Jack up a rear wheel. with the band adjustments tight, try to turn it. Will it turn. If so there is a problem with B2 or B3. (Traction Disconnect must be engaged)



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jeff pk

04-16-2013 18:31:05
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to Larry NCKS, 04-16-2013 18:23:22  
Okay I'll try that. Do I need to put the interlock cover back on or can I do it removed with the adjusting screw just turned in?

Leave it in Park?


Thanks



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Larry NCKS

04-16-2013 18:35:46
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to jeff pk, 04-16-2013 18:31:05  
interlock cover does not matter for this test.

transmission is always in Park when the engine is not running, no matter what position the shifter is in.



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jeff pk

04-16-2013 19:09:41
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to Larry NCKS, 04-16-2013 18:35:46  
Wheel turns, with some heavy resistance that's not there when the lever is disengaged.



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Larry NCKS

04-16-2013 19:51:03
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to jeff pk, 04-16-2013 19:09:41  
if you're sure both bands are tight, you shouldn't be able to turn that wheel.

I'm gonna guess you dropped the strut as you suspected.
Wanta haul it to Kansas??? :lol:



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jeff pk

04-17-2013 10:41:23
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to Larry NCKS, 04-16-2013 19:51:03  
Can you tell me what is involved with the retrieval and replacement of the strut I dropped?



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Larry NCKS

04-17-2013 10:49:59
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 Re: Technically challenged SOS repair in reply to jeff pk, 04-17-2013 10:41:23  
Transmission split from center housing at rear. Rear gut until you get in far enough to fix your problem.
You'll need a rear transmission housing gasket, a transmission to center housing gasket and oil for the hydraulic section as a bare minimum.



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