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Re: Pie weight Nuts

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03-28-2013 18:32:54

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Actually B is from a set I took off a Ferguson TO-20. That's when I learned that Fergy wheel studs are 9/16" diameter rather than 5/8" diameter. The odd thing about these is that the male stud is 5/8". So you can use these on a Ferguson, but you have to use Ford lugnuts. You are correct that the hex size is larger (1-1/8") than the others, which are all 1-1/16" hex.

Of the others, A is also for a Ferguson. Both male and female ends are 9/16". I only have a partial set of those.

C and D have the same dimensions in all respects. The only difference is that C is all hex and D is mostly round with a 1-1/16" hex on the outer end. These are the style I see in vintage parts and accessories books published by Ford.

E is not compatible with any of the others because the hex body is tapered on both ends, making the working length longer than the others.

I'm keeping the purple extenders for possible use on my TO-30 but I just learned recently that Ferguson rear wheels have a 5.5" bolt circle instead of a 6" bolt circle like the Ford. So that means I need to find a different mounting plate to put pie weights on my Fergy. What are my chances of finding two of those? Not very high, i'm guessing.

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03-29-2013 06:15:20

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to Jim.UT, 03-28-2013 18:32:54  
Hello Jim , I was unaware of the Ferguson lug nuts because of the lack of them in my area and I have not even seen a Fergy with pie weights on it , so I know you will not find a set of plates out here . The Industrial lug nuts I was speaking about are larger than 1 1/8 , I think they are the same size as 5000 lug nuts because Ford used them on the new wheels centers for the Industrials in 1964 and 1965 trying to keep the lugs from loosening on the Loader/Backhoes . Thanks Tony

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03-29-2013 17:51:28

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to TONY JACOBS, 03-29-2013 06:15:20  
Jim I have swapped TO ferguson model rims/center to ford 8N tractors all the time so I'm not with model you are talking about?


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03-29-2013 09:08:55

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to TONY JACOBS, 03-29-2013 06:15:20  
I've never seen pie weights on a Fergy either and I'm beginning to wonder if any sets were ever made for a Ferguson. But I know the purple extenders came off a Ferguson so they must have been there for a reason. Maybe for something else like a dual wheel setup, etc. Now that I know the rear bolt circle is smaller than that of a Ford, I know that none of the weight mounting plates I have will work.

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03-29-2013 03:22:39

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to Jim.UT, 03-28-2013 18:32:54  

I believe that D was used in conjuntion with the daul wheel adapter plate Maybe because it fits the hole better and keeps the plate from damaging the The lug section. Maybe Tony will chime in to confirm this. Photo is on my daul plates with lugs which I purchased all together. I have also seen set that are mixed.


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03-29-2013 06:54:12

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to Kirk-NJ, 03-29-2013 03:22:39  
I have a couple of sets of dual wheel spacers/adapter bolts like yours, Kirk.

Though these are not in front of me at this time, I believe that the adapters used with the dual wheel spacers are the same as those used with pie weight sets.

Similar, though slightly longer, adapters without taper on either end are used on row crop (corn picker) wheel spacers.


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03-29-2013 06:02:58

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to Kirk-NJ, 03-29-2013 03:22:39  
Hello Kirk , Unfortunately I can't be of much help with the Dual Wheel Spacer kits as I have never had a tractor with a set or seen a set on a low hour tractor that was never altered in some form from stock . It does make sense that they would have the nuts with less hex on them so that they would fit tighter in the spacer and so that it would not wear into the spacer like the sharp edges of the hex would even though they should not be run loose . Have you been working on the your 61 841 4x4 or is it still in the garage just waiting under cover ? Thanks Tony

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03-29-2013 17:44:17

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to TONY JACOBS, 03-29-2013 06:02:58  
Hi Tony The '61 elenco is sitting, ready for paint just waiting for better weather. Probably won't get to it till after plantings done.


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03-29-2013 20:07:03

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to Kirk-NJ, 03-29-2013 17:44:17  
Hello Kirk , Better then sitting and not getting done like some of my projects . Tony

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03-31-2013 02:12:33

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to TONY JACOBS, 03-29-2013 20:07:03  
Hi Tony,
I know what you mean. I've got plenty of projects and a few rolling restorations and still manage to pick up an MF 202, 881 and two 8n's this past week. I don't how my wife puts up with it? I am heading up to Chester Mass to pick up an 8n for a friend in a couple weeks. If we were closer I'd stop by to say hello. It's on the west side and I think it's a little to far out of the way.

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03-31-2013 15:17:40

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to Kirk-NJ, 03-31-2013 02:12:33  
Hello Kirk , You will be within an hour of me , Chester is off Route 20 and so am I . Call me when you are here and let me know how your trip is going . I am also only 5 miles from the Mass. Pike which will get you back on the Highway fast . Thanks Tony

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03-31-2013 15:33:44

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 Re: Pie weight Nuts in reply to TONY JACOBS, 03-31-2013 15:17:40  
Will do Tony. I have your #.


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