Looking for Ford 100# suitcase weights...

John_PA

Well-known Member
I've been looking around trying to find 10 of the 100 lb. suitcase weights for my 9700. There were several places I thought for sure would have the weights, but no luck. I'd like to have original ford weights, not aftermarket, just because the tractor is a bit of a crème-puff. Does anyone know where I could find some? Seems to be an abundance of the newer style 40kg weights that use the cast front bracket. The older suitcases must be more in demand. (probably the universal flat bar mounting style makes them more appealing for the tractor pull guys)

Any leads would be appreciated. Thanks
 
try McFadden and Sons in Sharon Springs NY. They
have stacks of just about every conceivable weight.
They probably won't be cheap.
 
Fordtractorpro,
I'm near Pittsburgh, 30 miles west almost on the WV boarder. I don't mind a drive across PA or Ohio, as long as I'm coming home with what I want! Thanks for the information.

Johnpop1,
I gave them a call, he said he is going to look, but suggested to me that the truck freight charge would be around $500. Yikes! I'm still not ruling him out yet. Thanks for the help.


Ultradog,
If it's a 7700 would they be the smaller 80 lb weights like I have on my Ford 7000? I'm not ruling that one out, though. I'll try to give him a call this evening and see what he is willing or able to do. Thanks for the lead.
 
Wow Lynn, I never noticed the hauling schedule before. I could have used that quite a bit in the past. Thanks for opening my eyes, as I apparently was doing a poor job of it on my own. hahaha

Thanks
 
Item number 190812912044. Looks like only 2 or 3 weights though.
And yes, the weights from a 7700 would be the lighter ones like your 7000 has.
 
Thanks Fordfarmer. Do you have the youtube account fordfarmer89 by any chance?

Here's a picture of the 9700. Paint shop painted the rear rims the wrong way, but, I will get that straightened out soon. 4300 hours, mint condition original interior.

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Nope, don't have a youtube account.
Nice tractor!
As someone else said, try the hauling schedule. I've
had good luck using it.
 
Someday, when I get the Ford 1210 finished(just have the fenders and rollbar to finish I'll take a picture of the whole Ford fleet, and the whole tractor fleet.

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For some reason the bottom of the picture didn't load correctly when I took it. Left to right- 1975 Ford 7200 bought new, has 3800 hours; 1978 Ford 9700 bought a few years ago from original owner's relative, 4300 hours; 2000 New Holland 8670 bought last December in Owensboro, KY, 3600 hours.
 
I like those 4/5/7200's. I'll get one (to keep) eventually. Yours is hardly broken in though. My '75 7100 has about 10,000 more hours than your 7200! doesn't look anywhere near as nice, though.
 
That 7200 sat outside for 80% of it's life. It has had 1 repaint in 2002, at the time, the dual power/load monitor decal was not available for the hood. I see that it is available now. Next repaint it will get the decals and the paint will be in PPG DBU base coat/ matrix MS-20 clear coat. It's only on it's second set of rear tires. The original rears lasted up until about 1999 I think. Last year it was only used to plant corn and do some flail mowing in the pasture fields. Once the dairy cows left, we kept the hours really low on all the tractors. I'm always looking for a Ford 4200. I like sitting up high on a tractor.
 
Have you ever been to Burg Implement in Harmony PA. I have seen piles of weight of all shape and size there. Brother who own the place have been there for along time. he runs a tractor/equipment salvage yard
 
John,
Try wengers, myerstown,pa 800-451-5240.Also try
kellers in Quackertown ,pa. 215-536-4046. Kellers has buildings full of all kinds of stuff. He use to be a Ford dealer.
 
I'll be coming with our portable scales from NE Ind on May 25th to a tractor pull in Uniontown PA. If you find some between now and then in our greater area or on our route, I'd be glad to haul them your way. I'm just west of Ft. Wayne Ind. It would probably cost you a couple of Big Mac meals though [super sized of coarse] ;0)
 
kuntzbrian,
I gave Burgh's a call this morning. He said they don't have any Ford suitcase weights. If you've ever met Charlie Burgh (died probably 13 years ago) he looked exactly like Col. Sanders of the fried chicken fame. He was a completely unique man. The first time I met him, he was sitting on a golf cart and I was there to pick up an engine for a tractor. He asked if he could help me, I told him I was there for the tractor engine, so he told me to hop on his cart and he would drive me to it. I hopped on and we drove from the driver's door of my truck, around the front of it, to the passenger side of my truck, and the engine was sitting right there. I will never forget that sense of humor. His 2 sons run the place now and have been scrapping a lot of the really old stuff.


alg,
Thanks for the leads. I've never heard of Keller's. I will be sure to save that contact information for the next time.

John B. NE in,
I really appreciate the offer! If May 25th wasn't the height of corn planting, I would come out to meet you, regardless. I always am happy to meet a fellow tractor nut! What kind of tractor pull is it that you are bringing scales all the way from Indy?


To all who helped,

Thanks to all of you. Because of the help, I was able to locate weights today near Akron, OH at a New Holland dealership. I just got back from the 4 hour round trip drive and now I have a bed full of weights, 2 cans of blue paint, and a nice New Holland AG (yellow and blue)toolbox! hahaha I couldn't resist buying it. Those weights sure are bigger than I remember and 100 lbs is a lot heavier than I remember! When did thy start making 100 lbs that heavy? I guess it's been a long winter for me. No end in sight now, probably going to be a wet wet muddy spring.

Oh well... Thanks again to everyone, I couldn't have gained 1000 lbs without you.
 
Sharp looking 9700! Those tractors were one of my favorites. Now I know why you're looking for weights.

Attached is a pic of one with weights, 17 to be exact. According to the factory literature, they could be factory ordered with 10, and more could be dealer installed. If you look closely at the picture, you can tell that 3 outside weights on each end are a different color.
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John,

Something I noticed after looking at a picture of your rig: Notice how the FORD letters on the front of your rig are not centered with the decal like they are on the ones out of the factory. What do you think happened there?

The chrome letters look like the right size, and the decals look centered to me. The decals are a little different, however, with the width of the blue and white bars.

Please note: I am not trying to badmouth your paint job. I am only trying to figure out what happened.
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We have portable scales that are heavy enough to weigh pulling semi's at 20,000#. Most scales are light wt. in order for the sled operators to cross the DOT scales when they travel down the highway. They are pressed to keep their overall wt below 80,000#, [truck, pulling sled and extra wts.] Their scales probably weigh around 1,500#. Ours wheigh over 8,000#. They need the extra weight to stop the heivier pulling trucks and tractors. I'm actually around 120 miles north of Indy and 375 miles from uniontown. There's not to much demand for heavy duty portable scales so theres not that many of them around. We have weighed 4x4 farm tractors with duals as heavy as 35,000#.
 
Bern,
Is that picture from the literature? Those tractors look great with duals and believe me, they have a ton of power to pull just about anything you can put behind them. It will run out of traction long before it runs out of hp.

I just got a brand new pair of unverferth snap on duals. I'm looking around now for some used rubber to wrap them with. Unverferth only sent me one J-bolt with the kit. Once I get some good used tires and the J-bolts. I am in business.



There are a few things that the paint shop did that I am not happy with. If you look closely, you can see that the decal is not 100% correct in the front. One of the reasons I bought the tractor was the overall quality of the paint job, as I looked at many tractors before buying this one. Most repaints are done extremely poor. The shop that did this tractor doesn't normally do tractors, they only do cars. They charged almost $5000 for the paint job and the money was in the prep work. The original paint on the tractor was in decent shape. It wasn't a rust bucket. When they repainted it, they feathered out all paint chips or other defects even in the casting, under the cab, between the cab and transmission, and on the engine. They removed wiring harnesses, sheet metal, cab roof, front and rear rims and tires, and lots of other detail pieces. However, the hood decals they used were obviously cheap ones you can buy online. They also didn't replace the dual power decals that go on the grill side panels. They also painted the rear rims gloss gray, instead of galvanized. I have seen pictures from literature where the rims look painted gloss gray, but, me personally, in all the years I've been around ford tractors, have never seen that in person. They did replace all the rear power adjust rim lock bolts and nuts. The other thing I suspect is that they used tractor supply Valspar paint. While it is not a bad paint, and they used an acrylic enamel hardener, it is not a 100% match to the New Holland paint.

The good news is, everything they did that is not 100% correct, is completely reversible by me. I was a professional bodyman for about 15 years. I can fix all those little things, and I'll live with the color discrepancy as usually, I am the only one who notices the difference. I have a special tool, that uses a round rubber disk, similar to those old gummy erasers they used to give you in school. I can remove the decals and apply the correct ones when I get time without hurting the paint at all.

I'm proud of the tractor, but I am not putting it in a museum just yet. I plan on plowing about 70 acres of sod with it for corn this year with a White 598 variable width plow. I also plan on painting the plow blue and putting the Ford 154 decals on it :lol: I am, however very annoyed by the same things you noticed, and do plan on fixing it. My dad bought the 7200 brand new and it had to sit outside from 1984 until last year. I am not going to let that happen to this 9700. Ever try to find a factory steering wheel for a 7200? Or how about the original warning decals, and control decals? It's impossible. So, that tractor will never look as good as it did when it was new. Let's just hope this 9700 has a better life!


Do you have other pictures of the tractor from literature? I love seeing those pictures.
 
John B ne in,

I never thought about that before! When you said portable scales, I was thinking of the ones that DOT likes to slide under my truck tires before writing me a ticket. haha
 
John,

Aftermarket decals explains the difference in the decals, but not the offset on the FORD lettering. I'd still like to know what happened there.

Attached is the front page of the factory literature. Those power-adjust rear rims sure do look like they're gray gloss to me, as do the outer duals on the first pic I sent. Myself, I would prefer gray gloss over galvanized color.

Note also the front rack has 11 weights on it. 11 was the max you could get onto the standard bracket, which explains why there was 17 on the 9700 pic I sent (3 weights added each side). However, the literature states that the mounting bracket only holds 10 weights.

I have an 8-page brochure (front page is attached) that I can scan and send to you as a PDF if you'd like. Just let me know. Do you have something different for that series?
 
Bern,

That picture shows galvanized rear rims. If you look real close you'll see the difference. These were the "new fangled tractors" when I grew up. I saw them new right from the factory. Those rims were galvanized.

My decals are lower. If you had a better picture, you'd see they are set too low to begin with. The proper procedure for setting decals on this tractor are to work from the front grill back. The paint shop probably started from the wrong end. I dont' know if they soaped the decals, but I bet they did. I hope they did. That will make it easier to remove them.

If you saw a pic of my tractor up close, you'll see how the decals overlap the bodyline slightly.

They should be up a bit, but, more importantly, they should be correct.





These are not correct, nor are they centered correctly. I'll fix it and you will never notice. Spring is coming late for me, and the ground is like chocolate pudding. When it does dry out, I'll plow, disk and hit it with the cultimulcher before planting. After that is done, it will be hay season immediately. When hay wraps up, I'll be in repair mode.

When repairs are done, and I have time before wheat, I'll fix it and this won't be an issue. If you saw the tractor in person, you will see what a mean.


The lit I have on the tractor is a general 1977 ford line book. I don't have 9700 specific literature for the tractor. My mother hated tractor literature. When my dad brought it home, she used it for a firestarter in the woodburner during the winter. I keep reminding her that that kindling was probably worth thousands on the ebay market. she doesn't care. She hates tractors and pictures of them. You can't fix a soggy attitude.




My dad always had boxes of lit all the time, to take to customers. She probably burned $10,000 in literature. HE never made that much in commission. i'd bet the lit was worth more than any sales bonuses he ever got.

How were we to know? It made me a wonderful tractor nut, and mechanic, but, that was the extent of it's purpose. I wish we all would have known. Oh well. The gas wells make up for it. When we get a well, we should be millionaires. I'll just keep that in mind.



If you ccan scan that literature... my email is [email protected] I'd love to see that stuff again. I miss that being the biggest, baddest monster of a tractor that they made. I remember those days well. I just wish we had one back then. I would have plowed so many of the neighbors farms.


Thanks Bern, you really are someone I look up to, and I love it when you reply, not to mention to dvd you sent me. I'm forever a fan of you. God Bless!
 

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