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Re: 600 Ford Fuel tank valve:(Ideas for a BETTER replacement???

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Bill Radford

03-12-2013 09:45:37
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A couple of years ago I had the same issue.It just happened that I had the sheet metal off of my 641 to do some work and I notied that my original tank had some rust underneath and this area was leaking in addition to the leaking original petcock.
After weighing pros and cons, I took the easy (but more $) way of ordering a new tank.
My new tank came from this site, and is actually a NAA tank. The tank has provision for mounting the valve in the 601-series location in the middle of the tank or to the drivers right in the NAA location.(just inside the hood)
I decided to mount the cutofff valve (an NAA type valve that I also got from this site) on the right side in the NAA location, using the supplied plug to seal the mid-tank mounting location.
In order to do this, I had to fabricate a new fuel line. After mocking the fuel line up with a piece of heavy wire, I had both the length and shape of my new line determined. The local parts store supplied an appropriate size and length of steel brake line and a cheap bending tool. (fittings were already on the line)
30 minutes or so of fiddling with the line and we were ready to go.In addition to the strainer bulb on the NAA valve, I also left the strainer next to the carbuerator in place.
Things to watch: be sure you do not let the line contact the valve cover or manifold and also make sure that the line is entirely "downhill" to help prevent vapor lock.Thats really about all there is to it. I now have a good tank and a reliable fuel line/petcock assembly that does not leak!
Even though this is not the "original" way it was done, to me it is a great improvement. The valve is now easy to reach, can be opened and shut without tools and has leaked not one drop in the past year.
The original 601 fuel valve was NOT one of Ford's "Better Ideas". You will never have anything but aggravation with it. The CNH ones are junk and over $50, the Tractor supply ones are Chinese Junk and not worth whatever they charge for 'em.
What would I have done if my original tank had been good? I dont know because there in my opinion there is really not a good answer. I considered solutions as drastic as welding up the original bung and fitting a threaded pipe to accept a Pingel or HD petcock, but then I would of had to use a rubber line, which I am afraid of in this application because of the location of the carb in relation to the manifold and becaues I really dont feel all that good about welding a gas tank. I know that folks do it but they also hang glide and bungee jump... just sayin'..
Sorry for the long post.

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douglloyd

03-12-2013 11:05:00
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 Re: 600 Ford Fuel tank valve:(Ideas for a BETTER replacement??? in reply to Bill Radford, 03-12-2013 09:45:37  
Bill,

I did pretty much just what you did on my 640 a couple of years ago.

The biggest mistake I made was to take pictures and write up a how-to post for this discussion board...

You'd have thought I slept with my mother, for cryin out loud. All the flames and static - not exactly the responses I had hoped for.

Doesn't matter. The NAA tank with an 8N fuel filter and a new longer fuel line works great. No more burnt fingers, lots of advantages you already mentioned.

Doug in east TN

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EarlyBronco

03-12-2013 11:34:44
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 Re: 600 Ford Fuel tank valve:(Ideas for a BETTER replacement in reply to douglloyd, 03-12-2013 11:05:00  
Hey Doug, I'm sorry to hear that's the response you got, I think it's a great idea and I commend you and Bill for taking the time/effort to experiment.
I can tell you that with a loader on my 641 it's darn near impossible to get to my current/orig valve now.

By chance, does your write up still exist?

Thanks



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EarlyBronco

03-12-2013 09:53:45
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 Re: 600 Ford Fuel tank valve:(Ideas for a BETTER replacement in reply to Bill Radford, 03-12-2013 09:45:37  
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Well, Bill it may have been a long post BUT its a great post! You just gave me my next project and I'm planning on following your instructions exactly.

One question though, couldn't you put some braiding on the new line to protect it from contact burns, heat and hard corners etc?

I was playing with the Pingel idea as well, but your post gave me the info I needed

Thanks!

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Bill Radford

03-12-2013 12:32:32
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 Re: 600 Ford Fuel tank valve:(Ideas for a BETTER replacement in reply to EarlyBronco, 03-12-2013 09:53:45  
Yes I do have a lot of trouble getting pictures... I start out with really good intentions then first thing you know my hands get all greasy and nasty and I dont want to take the time to wash up before I handle the camera (that is also my wife's). Most times I only have start and finish pix because of this.



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Bill Radford

03-12-2013 10:14:09
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 Re: 600 Ford Fuel tank valve:(Ideas for a BETTER replacement in reply to EarlyBronco, 03-12-2013 09:53:45  
I didnt put bracing, etc. My line didnt seem to need it, but I would have used a piece of old heater hose etc clamped around the line if It looked like it would have rubbed on the valve cover.
Some guys use the silver-looking insulation stuff they put on car floors above the muffler or cat and wrap a piece around the line where it passes through the manifold.I thought about it and didnt see the need.IMHO it looked crappy. You wont need it if you are very careful with your bending and routing.
Bill

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