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Re: Ford 4000 model number

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Will Gumbert

02-17-2013 05:07:07

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Yes, I believe you may be right that it was a 961 made in late'57 and as Larry said sold as an early '58. And as you also said it may well have been painted blue along the way. This was a fairly common thing to do it seems, back in the day. Over the years engines, trannys, and rear axles have been swapped all over the place too. Ford added to the confusion by re-labeling 801 and 901 tractors and painting them blue. I have two Fords from around this time, a blue one with red paint underneath and a red one with blue paint underneath.

So, your tractor looks like this, just with blue paint, right?.......

(Pay no attention to the outhouse in the background, that's just a squirrel hotel I maintain.... :) -Will

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02-17-2013 07:38:46

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 Re: Ford 4000 model number in reply to Will Gumbert, 02-17-2013 05:07:07  
The tractor isn't here but I don't believe it has the crossbar grill. I'm going back today with sandpaper, magnifying glass, and camera. I'm an Allis guy and we run into the same mix & match so it's nothing new.

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Will Gumbert

02-17-2013 09:29:28

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 Re: Ford 4000 model number in reply to Freewheelin, 02-17-2013 07:38:46  
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Definitely take some pictures of that Ford and post them here if you can. If it doesn't have the eggcrate grille then it could be a '62 or '63 "prior" 4000 with an older tranny, as Texas said. -Will

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02-17-2013 09:43:11

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 Re: Ford 4000 model number in reply to Will Gumbert, 02-17-2013 09:29:28  
Since it has the cyclops grill I'm thinking it may be a 961 with a hundred series grill or a 501,601,or 701 grill. It looks like they are the same. Yes? Was the dash panel the same on the hundred, 01, and thousand series? Anything else that might identify it?

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02-17-2013 11:57:58

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 Re: Ford 4000 model number in reply to Freewheelin, 02-17-2013 09:43:11  
The dash on the 01's and thousands will have a idiot light charge indicator and a fuel gauge in place of the ammeter that the hundreds used. There's a difference on the rear axle too, but I'm not sure what that is offhand. There are casting (date) codes that can pin down if the tranny is original to the rest of the tractor...or at least is close.

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Will Gumbert

02-17-2013 10:06:21

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 Re: Ford 4000 model number in reply to Freewheelin, 02-17-2013 09:43:11  
I hadn't thought about that, maybe it is an earlier tractor with the plain grille like the NAA and the ones you mentioned. I guess that would make it a 900, maybe. The '63 grille has no round emblem and the '62 has both the round emblem and the eggcrate grille, so I guess those are out. Seeing a photo or 2 would really help. The dash panels are essentially the same, the 901 series having a fuel, temp, and oil gauge and the 900 has an ammeter in place of one of those, I think. Even then it could be a tractor made up of parts of others. -Will

Edit: Another thing you could look for are number/letter combinations cast into certain parts as date codes. They will be something like "9A2" and in this example the 9 would be for 1959. You will find these on the lift arms and on the rear axle housing and other places if the tractor isn't too dirty.

Also, the engine has a number cast into it on the lower right side which could start with 310, B9NN, or C0NN - this can help determine engine mfg date.
This post was edited by Will Gumbert at 10:40:54 02/17/13 2 times.

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