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Re: Ford 3000 - odd steering problem following line replacem

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RandomEmployee

02-12-2013 14:02:30
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Thanks for the reply.

What is this "coffee" you speak of? Is that the stuff they sip while administering my daily whipping to make me work faster? All I get is some treacle in an old tomato soap can...

Tach is busted (don't look at me, it was that way when I came in), but with the tractor sitting still at a moderate idle, the following happens when slowly turning the wheel right to left:

Right stop is the lowest point.

Turning makes the wheel climb, to a total of roughly 1/8" difference from the lowest where the wheel stiffens just before it "pops". Yes, 1/8", unfortunately not a typo.

When it "pops", the wheel drops back down to normal height.

Continuing turning to the left makes the wheel climb again. I didn't notice last night, but it refuses to go all the way to the left stop while sitting still. It just gets stiff to the point where I can't manhandle it further. I would guess this because the assist is no longer assisting at this point.

Left to right is the opposite; the wheel starts high on the left, drops all the way down, "pops" up around center, then goes back down as it approaches the right stop.

I can turn it stop to stop no problem while moving, but I suppose that's to be expected.

The nut under the center cover is tight (probably frozen, actually), not sure if this is the one you meant.

Looking at some schematics online (for manual steering, Google can't seem to find any for the hydraulic version), it seems to me that the top thrust bearing might be shot, causing excessive play in the shaft and thus the hydraulics to be actuated incorrectly or not at all, respectively...but you would know better than I.

Edit: Looking into what said bearing would cost, it seems like you've seen this sort of thing before.
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02-12-2013 15:51:22
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 Re: Ford 3000 - odd steering problem following line replacem in reply to RandomEmployee, 02-12-2013 14:02:30  
The link you posted has to do with Non PS steering box so different.
I just looked at mine and will say it lifts/lowers maybe 3/32 but not a full 1/8".
I do think it is your locknut #21 in the photo but can't say why the popping. Could be a broken spring washer - #20 that might pop.
Slight chance it is crud preventing the center spool in the hyd block from moving smoothly too.
It's in your hyd block though - pretty sure of that.
If you do go in to the block I strongly suggest that you replace the upper and lower seals - #35 and #14. Upper one especially is a known failure item and will puke oil out from under the steering wheel. Seals, etc not expensive from CNH dealer.
I always replace the 2 orings too - #33
Do you have a manual? It does help to at least have the I&T FO31 manual. It will show proper tightening procedure and staking the nut so it doesn't loosen on you.
Again, they're really not hard to fix. Worst part is pulling the tin.
I have other photos, etc that show where the proper plungers go in the hyd block so if you need it ask.
Glad you have a sense of humor.

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