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Re: 1957 600 Project - Will not Turn Over

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old

02-11-2013 14:25:54
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Yes the yellow wire most likely is the ignition wire so if you do not carry it with the battery cable you will have it start then die as soon as you let off the starter button. The 3 wire solenoid has a battery side and starter side to it and if hooked up back wards it just flat out will not work due to the way it is wired inside




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TM_1957Ford600

02-11-2013 18:04:58
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 Re: 1957 600 Project - Will not Turn Over in reply to old, 02-11-2013 14:25:54  
I feel like I am getting somewhere now. Here is what I discovered.

Starter switch works, but I believe the solenoid I bought is bad or the wrong one. The small prong location on the solenoid has an "s", assuming for start inscribed on the solenoid.

So I found the original 3pt solenoid and tried it (small prong has "I" inscribed on it. I hooked it up the same way and I got a click (coming from solenoid) when I pressed the starter button. So I proceeded to hook up the starter wire to the other side and I still got the click but its like I am not getting power transferred to the starter wire.

One other funny thing is that the starter button will supply power when pushed to the solenoid regardless if the ignition key is turned on or off.

Getting closer but still not there!

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02-11-2013 19:11:03
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 Re: 1957 600 Project - Will not Turn Over in reply to TM_1957Ford600, 02-11-2013 18:04:58  
Well you have to back up a tad bit. The factory starter button is a ground type set up it does not give voltage it supplies a ground which is how the ford solenoids worked on the old ford tractors. If you do as I said and try the cable to cable thing and if the starter spins your sure it is a solenoid problem if it does not spin then a starter problem. If you need help that may hit home better e-mail me an I will then give you my home phone number. Found a long time ago some times that help a person more then what I can do here and have had many call me for one on one phone calls

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02-11-2013 17:33:47
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 Re: 1957 600 Project - Will not Turn Over in reply to old, 02-11-2013 14:25:54  
Ok guys I tried both of your suggestions. The only time I got any type of electrical sound was when I accidentally touch the main battery wire to the small prong on the solenoid. You coukd just hear the solenoid kick. I did this when I was swamping sides.

I swamped sides of batt wire and starter wire and got nothing



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02-11-2013 17:58:46
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 Re: 1957 600 Project - Will not Turn Over in reply to TM_1957Ford600, 02-11-2013 17:33:47  
Pull the starter side cable off the solenoid. Now take that and touch the battery side with it.. If it turns over when you do that then you have a bad new solenoid. If it does not turn over check starter ground and if that does not fix it take the starter to an auto parts store and have it checked it maybe bad



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TM_1957Ford600

02-16-2013 18:16:32
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 Re: 1957 600 Project - Will not Turn Over in reply to old, 02-11-2013 17:58:46  
Well got her running after about 15 years! Thanks for the help everyone!



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Dave in MS

02-17-2013 15:59:34
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 Re: 1957 600 Project - Will not Turn Over in reply to TM_1957Ford600, 02-16-2013 18:16:32  
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So what did you that got it going?



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TM_57Ford600

02-17-2013 16:10:24
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 Re: 1957 600 Project - Will not Turn Over in reply to Dave in MS, 02-17-2013 15:59:34  
First thing was that I bought a new (bad) solenoid

Then I called OLD and he helped me diagnose some small electrical issues. I was able to get the starter to hit and it acted like it was in a bind. I pulled started and confirmed that it was working.

The next thing I tried was turning over the motor manually with the plugs out. I was able to turn it over so far in one direction before it stopped, same with the other direction. I new this was not right so I kept working it by turning the motor over by grabbing the fan.

Finally a bunch of old gunk shot out of #3 plug and it began to spin freely! Bolt starter and carb up and after adjusting on carb it hit and ran.

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02-18-2013 08:24:19
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 Re: 1957 600 Project - Will not Turn Over in reply to TM_57Ford600, 02-17-2013 16:10:24  
Glad you got it running. We all owe "Old".



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