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Ted E.Bear

02-08-2013 18:41:46
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i did find the serial number which is c114173 5k1 , i looked all the info up and also found this ,c5nn on the trans housing,




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RodInNS

02-08-2013 19:20:46
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to Ted E.Bear, 02-08-2013 18:41:46  
I'd be most concerned about the date code and the spline count and style of the clutch once you get the thing split. There were various clutches available for these tractors... so just find which one it has and get another.

Hy-Capacity often sells a reman pressure plate that's fairly decent... I'd probably go with that unless it's really getting the snot worked out of it... then I'd probably go with an OEM clutch disc.
Also prudent to change the engine rear seal and the pilot and release bearings while you're in there...

Rod

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soundguy

02-09-2013 13:38:08
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to RodInNS, 02-08-2013 19:20:46  
this job is approaching for me as well. I think I finally used up all my adjustment last summer.

I hope to simply make it thru mowing season this year with her then split her.

just got some practice on a jd 2240.. but the 5000 is bigger.... not looking forward to splitting these bigger tractors.. :)



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showcrop

02-10-2013 17:44:56
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to soundguy, 02-09-2013 13:38:08  
It seems I split my 9000 every year. Last time the worst problem was struggling with it for probably an hour before I noticed there was still one bolt way above my head holding the hood. So I would have to say size matters. LOL



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brian in ma

02-10-2013 16:44:35
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to soundguy, 02-09-2013 13:38:08  
I have found when the adjustment is gone you can cut & weld the clutch rod and get a few hundred/thousand more hours. Worked for me anyway.



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soundguy

02-11-2013 05:00:49
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to brian in ma, 02-10-2013 16:44:35  
don't tempt me!! :)



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RodInNS

02-11-2013 05:39:54
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to soundguy, 02-11-2013 05:00:49  
I can't see how that would gain you much myself... Most of mine are to the point of slipping and squalking long before the adjustment runs out? When the disc is already that thin there's not enough tension left on the PP springs to pull a good load.
Mabey alright if you're just putzing around with it but put it against 10 ton where it's got to pull... not going to work so good.
A split is so easy on that thing anyway it's not worth buggering with.

Rod

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Brian in MA

02-11-2013 08:34:22
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to RodInNS, 02-11-2013 05:39:54  
I bought my 5600 with a broken tranny case and swapped a junk yard tranny into it. At the time the clutch looked like it had life in it, and honestly I was broke between the tractor purchase and tranny purchase, so I didn't put a fresh clutch in it. once it was all together, the clutch released right at the top of the travel, but no more threads left to adjust, so I cut it and rewelded to gain more length (or less length, I can't remember the geometry on that one). That was in 2005. I agree, I'm not pulling 10 ton every day, but it is my loader, haying and logging tractor and it is still going strong (knock on wood) over 1,000 hours later. Until this fall I didn't have a garage that it would fit in so I would have been splitting it outside again.

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souNdguy

02-11-2013 05:42:12
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to RodInNS, 02-11-2013 05:39:54  
naa.. i was joking.

mines adjusted tot he max, and last year befroe adjustment.. i could make it slip if I handled it right.

this year will wear all the good out of it.. if it ain't already..



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RodInNS

02-10-2013 07:40:07
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to soundguy, 02-09-2013 13:38:08  
There's easier than the little ones most of the time...
2240 is roughly the same size.

Rod



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soundguy

02-10-2013 10:49:21
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to RodInNS, 02-10-2013 07:40:07  
hit enter before finished.

contrast that 2240 split to one I did on my much, much smaller farmall C. I don't think it took 45m by myself to get split. in fact.. it may have taken 30m. much smaller.. much lighter.. easier to manipulate.

after my heart problems a couple years ago.. I've been scraping the bottom of the BBL and only doing smaller projects.. that case VAC and the farmall C.. a dearborn plow.. etc..

Oh well.. the 5000's gonna need a clutch whether I want to do it or not. can't change that.

I forsee my wife coming home and seeing the 5000 taken apart on the driveway.. :)
This post was edited by souNdguy at 10:52:32 02/10/13.

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soundguy

02-10-2013 10:46:52
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to RodInNS, 02-10-2013 07:40:07  
i can't imagine bigger being easier to split than smaller.. just looking at weight issue and all.

with a friend and a 'here hold this and stay out of the way' helper, I had that 2240 split in about 2 hours, after fighting with the hydro lines on the right side.

that was in a nice enclosed shop with concrete floor, overhead hoist, lotsa floor jacks and stands.

my shop's got none of that. :)

I'll be lucky if I can use my stepdads shop... :)

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RodInNS

02-10-2013 15:49:35
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to soundguy, 02-10-2013 10:46:52  
With small tractors... I think more in terms of the jap imports. They're harder to split than a 5000 if you're using jacks... I find it generally takes 3 floor jacks and 8 arms to manipulate the little tractors around because they want to topple over or the rear end wants to lift before the mis section when you're jacking...
The easiest tractor anyone could ever hope to split is a 2wd 10 series row crop. Ya don't even remove the hood on those old dolls. Just rub their belly.... and they spread.

Rod

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souNdguy

02-10-2013 15:53:04
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 Re: 5000 clutch job, in reply to RodInNS, 02-10-2013 15:49:35  
ah.. ok.. I understand what you are saying.

on a jap import.. they are a short tranny and rear and might tip back.

them ldiy small ones ai split had long torque tubes.. etc..



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