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Re: Can't lower lift arms on my 801

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PhilC

01-07-2013 16:10:51
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Well, I got lucky. Spent about an hour and a half moving snow with the FEL earlier today and tried moving control lever several times while doing that to no avail. Didn't think about the draft position control, though, good idea.

When I finished, I parked the tractor back in the shop and left the control in the full down position. Just went out and checked, lift arms are down. Fired tractor up, and arms go up and back down. Guess I get to do some back blade work tomorrow.

I'll be sure to leave the control in the down position from now on. I may still need to get inside the hydraulics, but at least I can wait 'til nicer weather.

Thanks for the suggestions though, much appreciated. 8)

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old

01-07-2013 18:39:31
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 Re: Can't lower lift arms on my 801 in reply to PhilC, 01-07-2013 16:10:51  
Down is in draft so you still have a problem but at least you can use the 3 point not the best way but at least it can be used. Up the draft/position control is in position control so your going to pretty much be either up or down and not much between



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Larry NCKS

01-07-2013 19:35:20
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 Re: Can't lower lift arms on my 801 in reply to old, 01-07-2013 18:39:31  
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I think the OP talking about the position control lever here. Not the draft control lever. Correct, PhilC?



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PhilC

01-08-2013 06:56:11
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 Re: Can't lower lift arms on my 801 in reply to Larry NCKS, 01-07-2013 19:35:20  
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Correct Larry. Actually, I never moved the draft/position lever, it's still in position mode. Apologies to old, I should have been clearer in my earlier reply. :oops:

I didn't think about the draft/position lever until I read old's post, but I had already parked the tractor by then and was back indoors. I did move the lift control lever up and down several times while I was using the FEL, but it didn't make any difference. I left the lift control lever in the down position when I put the tractor away about 11:30. At 4pm, I decided to take a look when I was tossing a tennis ball for my yellow lab, and lo and behold, the arms were down.

Now, this brings up a new question. Is it better to leave the lift arms down, mid-way, or up when the tractor is parked? If the arms got stuck while up would they also get stuck when down? I park it in my shop, and cannot get through the 8' door with the back blade (also 8') attached, so it's always put away without an implement. I have been parking it with the arms up, but this discussion now has me wondering if full down is the better option.
Sure appreciate the replies. When warm, dry weather returns to eastern WA, I'll pull the topdeck and give it thorough cleaning, don't suppose it will hurt a thing to do that. Maybe I'll fix my power steering (separate and much more involved issue) while I'm at it. :wink:

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old

01-08-2013 09:08:57
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 Re: Can't lower lift arms on my 801 in reply to PhilC, 01-08-2013 06:56:11  
Well on my 841 with loader that is parked out side I when I park it set a wood block under the back blade which has 6-85lbs suit case weights and a 150lbs wheel weight on the center link area. I also set a wood block under the bucket. That way neither on sits on the ground so as to keep it from freezing down. More or less a safety device since years ago I had one start up and the 3 point control was set to go up and the tractor did a wheelie due the the back blade being frozen to the ground. Not the best way to start the day

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JMOR

01-08-2013 07:04:58
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 Re: Can't lower lift arms on my 801 in reply to PhilC, 01-08-2013 06:56:11  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeMind you, strictly an opinion, but I prefer to park with everything hydraulic in a pressure relieved state. In the case of your lift, that means down. Reason being that in a spool valve, pressures keep it forced up against the bushing & I would rather that it sit there floating freely. And it is a spool valve that controls the flow to dump the cylinder & lower it.

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old

01-07-2013 20:47:03
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 Re: Can't lower lift arms on my 801 in reply to Larry NCKS, 01-07-2013 19:35:20  
Well just going by the fat I had said to try to move the draft/position control to see if the arms would go down and from what I understand he did so and the 3 point arms would then go up and down by the control handle which it would not before.



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