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Re: Buying a Ford 3000

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Texasmark1

12-29-2012 08:30:21
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Responding to Ultradog's comments:

I think I can see that it does have diff lock. In the pic taken from the rear, just to the right of the mid section, on top of the axle housing you can see something. That should be the diff lock linkage which goes down through a hole in the axle housing to do it's job.

On the tranny I'll say it's an 8 speed. I have a 6 and my levers are reversed; tall and short levers are on opposite sides. Short lever is hi-lo range and long one is gear selector.

On live vs tranny PTO I'm going to say it's live. Reason is the height of the clutch pedal. Mine is live and to get the functions lined up the pedal has to be uncomfortably (somewhat but I am used to it now) high.

FYI, on this tractor you only have two fluid compartments with the full measurements made when fluid comes out the ports UD circled in red. The fill ports are easily visible up on top of the tranny and top right rear of the mid section at the rear axle.

With it having a dry air cleaner it is a later model. Mine is a '65 and is oil bath.

To check if the "proofmeter" (tach) is working, to the right of the numbers is either a black or white bar. While the engine is running, this bar will rotate and change colors which is your clue that it is functioning.

It's cold now and a starting aid may be required but hard starting under mild temperature conditions is an indication of worn rings. Mine and surely yours has a starting aid which is a hot wire and fuel release valve located just behind and inboard of where the air inlet hose attaches to the intake manifold. When activated, key position or pushbutton (depends on tractor year model) it heats a wire coil cherry red which causes a valve to open and dribble some diesel on that hot wire which catches on fire. The cranking engine sucks these fireball drops into the combustion chamber and lights off the engine.....literally.

The 3000 is a fine utility tractor and I wouldn't swap mine for anything.....for the intended purpose.

On the "Live" PTO. Depressing the clutch all the way stops everything. If the PTO lever is pulled forward when the clutch is let out about half way the PTO will start spinning but no ground speed. Letting the clutch on out the tractor will move across the ground. For doing post holes, you can't beat Live PTO.

HTH,
Mark

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3000OH

12-29-2012 10:49:09
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 Re: Buying a Ford 3000 in reply to Texasmark1, 12-29-2012 08:30:21  
Good point about the 6-versus-8 spd. We looked at a 3000 a couple of yrs ago, advertised as 8-spd but I could never find 7 & 8 (shift decal was long gone). Finally realized it was a six-spd. Told the owner the ad was wrong, he calmly said it wasn't, he'd counted the speeds...6 fwd + 2 reverse = 8 spds.

As for the dry air cleaner, our 65 gas has a dry unit like this one does. CNH parts site says early diesels did have an oil bath.

Re the thermostart...yes for diesels but this tractor is a gas, carb & distrib are in the RH pix, so no thermostart.

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Texasmark1

12-29-2012 14:29:37
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 Re: Buying a Ford 3000 in reply to 3000OH, 12-29-2012 10:49:09  
Gas my foot. I clearly see a diesel fuel filter and an injector pump. As I recall the Simms is an inline pump and only needs one filter as it it not as sensitive to water as the Roosa Master distributor pump. My After market SM says that 3000s were equipped with Simms pumps.

Well maybe so for the later models which this one is (later than my '65) as witnessed by the dry air filter, but mine has two filters, a water separator and then fuel filter and the Roosa Master pump.

If that picture with the hood up and battery swung out is of the aforementioned tractor that sucker is a diesel!!!

Mark

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Ultradog MN

12-29-2012 15:05:47
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 Re: Buying a Ford 3000 in reply to Texasmark1, 12-29-2012 14:29:37  
Mark, The pic you are referring to is my own tractor and yes it is a diesel so you are right about that.
But the original tractor that MikeAC asked about is a gasser.
You can see the photos of it by clicking on the link below.
As for the air cleaners, as far as I know all the 65-75 3 cyl gassers had a paper filter with the cover in the left center hood and all the 65-75 3 cyl diesels had an oil bath - serviced through the grill. Exceptions were some of the pre 75 Utility models like 3400, 4410 and maybe 4400. On those the diesels had a paper filter accessed through the Left side of the nose.

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3000OH

12-29-2012 19:12:44
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 Re: Buying a Ford 3000 in reply to Ultradog MN, 12-29-2012 15:05:47  
Thanks for figuring out that confusion, Ultradog - I'd been wondering about it. I almost didn't write (the dry-or-oil-bath question is neither here nor there) but didn't want MikeAC to buy it and wonder where his thermostart was.

One thing I think we three can all agree - and that I think you (Ultradog) have said before - 3000s were some of the best tractors that Ford made.



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MikeAC

12-31-2012 11:25:48
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 Re: Buying a Ford 3000 in reply to 3000OH, 12-29-2012 19:12:44  
Drove out to take a look at the tractor today with a mechanic friend. Soon found out I did not ask enough questions before I went. Tractor battery is dead, and is in a now snow drifted field so I could not drive to it to jump it, or check anything else out. Dealer did not offer any help , just said where it was and that the key was in the ignition. Wish he had told me it wasn't running when I called.
It's too far to go back now that I know what I need. Learning experience. Thanks for the help everyone. I will keep looking.

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