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Re: Tractor Values

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12-27-2012 08:56:31

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What's the reason for the journey? (or why is someone buying a tractor?). And a lot of it is also dependent upon the amount and quality of the frankentractor. If someone just wants a tractor to do a little work, chores or maybe plant some food plots or move a little snow changes aren't going to make that much of a difference especially if it was a direct replacement change (i.e. 5 speed for 5 speed) or and upgrade (4 speed to 5 speed & pick up live power) or a heavier industrial front end under an AG tractor that has a loader. If the upgrade was a step back (stock IH M motor in a Super M or a 4 speed w/o live power replacing a 5 speed w/live power) expect to take a hit on value. If you're trying to represent something as rare or unusual and it isn't has Ford (or whoever) built it it'll effect value. I see some of that on the Farmall side, folks talking about a "rare" or "prototype" HTA when in fact it's a 300 with H sheetmetal, might see similar things in the Ford world in a Diesel or all fuel SOS row crop that maybe started out life as something else. As another poster said might not be as big of an issue with a Ford 'cause their handy enough most folks are buying them to WORK, they're not as much of a toy as some of the older John Deeres (2 cylinder primitive design- meaning really big and not turning to fast, made by a company that only does/did farm tractors) or even the shear nostalgia of some of the "expired" brands like IH, Case, Oliver, Minnie-Mo or Allis Chalmers. Fords aren't bad tractors but they were a little late to the mainline game here in the US. While Ford was pushing out 8ns and Jubilees IH & John Deere were doing Super M's and 60's- those were the tractors that folks made the crops with, a lot of them also had a Ford for chores and the light field work but the big tractor was Green or Red. 10 years later John Deere has the 4010/4020 IH comes in a little later with the 06's (706/806/1206)again these were the prime movers and money makers of the day for the average farm family. Go west to the wheat lands and look at the JD D's R's and 80/820/830 or the IH W-9, and 600 series tractors, Ford wasn't playing in that arena. Yes in the 60's Ford came out with the 6000, a tractor that didn't get a lot of respect BUT the follow on tractors kept Ford in the Tractor business and made an all-Ford farm a viable option but it came in a little late. Ford will always be thought of as a car company not an AG company even though the 8N is/was the most popular post war tractor. If you consider the 9Ns and 2Ns that were closer to the 8N than an Early John Deere B is to a late B they made a heck of a lot more of their ONE tractor any one else did of any one model but they were only a one model tractor line, at that same time John Deere, IH and the others were offering 5 or more different tractor sizes.

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12-27-2012 09:16:28

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 Re: Tractor Values in reply to wisbaker, 12-27-2012 08:56:31  
Pretty good point, we sold ford in the late 60's to mid 70's and as much as the thousand series was mostly well built, JD was prevalent on dairy farms here, so was IH for the reasons you mentioned, though again the thousand series was well respected, and some farms did have them, so did many smaller operations or landowners, I just saw a 2000 that came out of the woodwork, for sale, with our sticker on it, friend of mine bought a 1 owner we sold with our sticker on it, came from a similar small property owner.

The other side of it for Ford was industrial, we sold backhoes, 27 in one year to the local utility company, plus the LCG's for mowing, townships seemed to like those, I remember the town we live in bought, ( we were low bidder is more like it) a pair of backhoes, we painted them the towns orange color, and they had them for quite some time, well into the 90's. I know others had industrials and so on, but who else had the LCG models like Ford, and on the hills around here, they are or seem to be the safest tractor you could have. Ag did not sell all that well, though we did well on hay equipment, it too was not new holland, industrials were the breadwinner, and that started a lot of trouble with mother Ford because they wanted the sister dealer to sell those and us to starve, 27 + backhoes sold and they give you a hard time about it.

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