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Re: 4000 platform tractor

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Ultradog MN

12-08-2012 16:20:01
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I had a thought here that you and I both might like to have the least valuable 4000 of all time.
Let's see: 4200, NF, 192 gasser with an SOS.
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I didn't know they didn't come out till 67.
Thanks.




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Fordfarmer

12-09-2012 13:05:31
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 Re: 4000 platform tractor in reply to Ultradog MN, 12-08-2012 16:20:01  
A 4200 has been on my wish list for a long time, as least as far back as high school when teh local dealer had a used gasser with a wide front and 8-speed. Don't remember if it was a 192 or 201 though. As long as I have my current 5 tractors, a NF would be OK... just a limited number of jobs I'd use it for. (no mowing or raking with a NF) 8-speed would be preferable, but I wouldn't pass on a SOS if the price was right. If I found a (cheap!) running 192 gasser, that would be OK too... until it came time for a rebuild... then it would 'become' a 201 diesel! Had to pass on a rough running 192/8-speed/WF with a loader at an auction a couple months ago, even though the price was reasonable... just not enough cash on hand.

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showcrop

12-10-2012 05:35:19
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 Re: 4000 platform tractor in reply to Fordfarmer, 12-09-2012 13:05:31  
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Why not mow or rake with NFE? When I quit haying I may pay someone to let me rake their hay with my 901 or 971 D.



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Fordfarmer

12-10-2012 06:22:23
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 Re: 4000 platform tractor in reply to showcrop, 12-10-2012 05:35:19  
Keith has it exactly. Here, it can be hard to get hay to dry - smashing it into the stubble makes it take too long. By the time we rake, the top part of the swath is often very dry, so tires running over it would crush the leaves, and they would be lost. This wouldn't be as much of an issue for grass hay, but we raise mostly legumes (clover, alfalfa, and trefoil) or legume/grass mixes. I could use a NF for raking hay for high moisture baling though... it would still be wet enough that the tires wouldn't affect anything.

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Keith Williams

12-10-2012 06:13:34
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 Re: 4000 platform tractor in reply to showcrop, 12-10-2012 05:35:19  
Showcrop,
When I mowed with a Haybine, I wanted the windrow to be nice and fluffy so that air could get through it. With a NF, you would be running right over the middle of the hay! I used a Ford 7000 Row crop for mowing with a IH 990 9 ft haybine.
Same with raking, you end up running over a lot more hay with a narrow front.
That said I raked most of my hay with a farmall H NF. I had super H gears in it and it raked a lot more hay on a tank of gas than my Ford 4000 would!
That is my experience.
Keith

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Fordfarmer

12-10-2012 08:52:05
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 Re: 4000 platform tractor in reply to Keith Williams, 12-10-2012 06:13:34  
Your 4000 must be a gas... my 4600 (diesel) will rake on 3 QUARTS of fuel per hour. Don't think an H or Super H can touch that. Jubilee uses right about a gallon per hour for raking. Neighbor used a 5200 diesel, said it was right at a gallon an hour, too.



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Keith Williams

12-10-2012 18:02:34
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 Re: 4000 platform tractor in reply to Fordfarmer, 12-10-2012 08:52:05  
You are exactly right!
Gas 1964 4000 with a 5 speed. 4th was too slow. 5th too fast. In the H with super h gears, 4th was just right.
One thing we always tried to do was rake early before the dew came off, or late after the dew fell. Didn't loose too many leaves that way. I could always bump the windrow over with the rake later without running over it.
Keith



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