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old 11-14-2012 07:59:10 209.86.226.40 Report to Moderator	Dude an 850 is an 800 series tractor and there was made a number of models like the 840 which had a 4 speed, then the 850 which is a 5 speed and also a 860 which is a 5 speed with live PTO. So what your looking at buying is in fact an 800 series 850 or 860 so just remove and install your loader on it and save your self many many hours since it is in fact the same or better modal tractor then what you already have [Reply]   [No Email]
Roadman 11-14-2012 09:19:35 199.38.59.2 Report to Moderator	Re: 1956 800 Ford in reply to old, 11-14-2012 07:59:10   Thanks Old: Your are right that would be the best way to go. I'm still wandering about the transmission. Did that shifting pattern change on these models? Like I said, the one I'm looking at buying has a forward and back shifting pattern. My 850 has a up and down left to right shifting pattern which I like better for using the loader. Also, did the 5 speed transmission only come on the 800 and 900 series tractors which would confirm that it is in fact a 800 series tractor. I can't read the serial no. Thanks again: Clay   [Reply]  [No Email]
Will Gumbert 11-14-2012 13:29:18 71.176.185.152 Report to Moderator	Re: 1956 800 Ford in reply to Roadman, 11-14-2012 09:19:35   Could it be that the tractor you are looking at is really a 4-speed tranny? The 4 speed shift lever moves forward and back more like a car or truck, and as has been said the 5 speed moves up and down and sort of rotates. -Will By the way, the engine casting number is probably EAF 6015 and according to John Smith's site, is a 172 ci block 1953-57. This post was edited by Will Gumbert at 13:35:11 11/14/12.   [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 11-14-2012 11:29:08 173.104.56.51 Report to Moderator	Re: 1956 800 Ford in reply to Roadman, 11-14-2012 09:19:35   your shifter handle is probbaly bent.. or somehow? installed wrong. the 5 speeds shift up / down and fore / aft... for/aft is a rotational movement.. thus if the shifter is bent or installed wrong, left right movement is the SAME rotational movement.. just a different location in the quadrant.   [Reply]  [No Email]
old 11-14-2012 10:46:03 209.86.226.34 Report to Moderator	Re: 1956 800 Ford in reply to Roadman, 11-14-2012 09:19:35   As far as I know the 5 speed ALL had the same shift pattern so what the guy has with out looking is hard to say and many people do not know there machines and just say what they think instead of checking things out so they can tell the truth about what it is. You would not believe the things I have seen at shows that where clearly not what the person believed it was and when you say something they seem to get mad because your correcting them. Like one show where a guy had a A/C WD but he swore up and down it was a WD45 even when shown the facts that it was not   [Reply]  [No Email]
Fordfarmer 11-14-2012 10:24:00 184.158.26.99 Report to Moderator	Re: 1956 800 Ford in reply to Roadman, 11-14-2012 09:19:35   The 5-speed was available in the 600 series as well. If the one you're looking at shifts with a different movement than the 5-speed you have, it's probably a 4-speed. Some people, for some reason, count reverse as a speed when advertising their tractors. All Ford 5-speeds have the same shift pattern... and I agree with you about 3rd/reverse being handy for loader work.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Roadman 11-14-2012 14:04:38 199.38.59.2 Report to Moderator	Re: 1956 800 Ford in reply to Fordfarmer, 11-14-2012 10:24:00   Sorry about the confusion. I was looking at the shifter wrong on the one I'm thinking about buying. It is an up and down, left and right or as soundguy put it, fore/aft. Physics wasn't my best subject in college. That will make my decision about exchanging the engines simpler. I'm probably going to just put my loader on this tractor. Love the third to reverse. Thanks again: Clay   [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 11-14-2012 11:29:21 173.104.56.51 Report to Moderator	Re: 1956 800 Ford in reply to Fordfarmer, 11-14-2012 10:24:00   up/down? not on a 4spd.. he's got a 5 and the shifter is bent or installed rwrong.. and he doesn't understand physics enough to know that fore / aft and left / right is the same rotational movement.. just in a different quadrant...   [Reply]  [No Email]