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Ultradog MN 10-10-2012 18:31:30 174.20.235.120 Report to Moderator	Ford was the First, or was it the last, to build an inferior transmission in an otherwise great tractor and not thet their pants sued off of them. The 6000 with the powershift transmission was clearly a failure and I wonder about all the private teeth grinding and serious grumbling it caused for the poor farmers who bought them new. Not that long after the advent of the 6000 Ralph Nader wrote his infamous book about the Chevy Corvair and began the push for lemon laws, government oversight and other consumer protections. Ford's voluntary replacement of sooo many trannies was clear evidence of a flawed product and today would cost them heavily. The Corvair was a better car than the 6000 was a tractor in the eyes of many farmers of the day. [Reply]   [No Email]
showcrop 10-11-2012 04:48:43 75.67.231.80 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford Firsts in reply to Ultradog MN, 10-10-2012 18:31:30   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see UD how many SOS fords do you own? [Reply]  [No Email]
Ultradog MN 10-11-2012 06:29:49 174.20.235.120 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford Firsts in reply to showcrop, 10-11-2012 04:48:43   None. What is your point? [Reply]  [No Email]
showcrop 10-11-2012 07:26:37 75.67.231.80 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford Firsts in reply to Ultradog MN, 10-11-2012 06:29:49   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see My point is that anyone who knows a little about tractors knows that they should bash the SOS. I have a second generation SOS in my 971 that has worked very well for me for 10 years working regularly. many others with some experience with them and knowledge of the second generation SOS will even declare that they are "bullet proof". I will not go so far as to say that they are bullet proof, but I will say that from my experience and that of various others that know the difference, that there is a night and day difference between the two. I can't tell you exactly when they came out, but I can tell you that the first ones had no drain plug on the bottom but second generation ones do. As a "Ford guy" I would think that you would not want to push any more blame on Ford than they really deserve. Sure it was rushed into production early, but just as Ford has done the same thing at other times so has every other manufacturer. [Reply]  [No Email]
Ultradog MN 10-11-2012 09:15:18 174.20.235.120 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford Firsts in reply to showcrop, 10-11-2012 07:26:37   Reread my post Showcrop. I was specifically talking about the 6000. If a machinery manufacturer put out a similarly untested, unreliable tractor today they would probably not only be paying for a lot of new trannies but also some sort of compensation for time lost due to malfunction through a class action lawsuit. [Reply]  [No Email]
showcrop 10-11-2012 17:01:16 75.67.231.80 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford Firsts in reply to Ultradog MN, 10-11-2012 09:15:18   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Welllllll.......... may..... be but 3of 5 sentences were specifically SOS [Reply]  [No Email]
Bern 10-10-2012 18:48:13 66.218.202.171 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford Firsts in reply to Ultradog MN, 10-10-2012 18:31:30   It wasn't only the trannies that made the 6000 flawed. Ford brought the early ones in from the field and overhauled almost everything except the tires! [Reply]  [No Email]