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corvetteguy 09-08-2012 14:21:08 65.167.42.181 Report to Moderator	Hi I am getting around to re powering my 821 Loader Backhoe with a ford 172 engine (Had a 62 jeep engine when I got it). My motor is ready to install (serial under 10,000). Had to weld front support bracket to catch DS front side of motor. I have many questions 1)I got gas tank and mounting brackets (is it right one??)it has sender hole on top. 2)Can I use mounting holes for gas tank brackets to attach lifting chain for install? 3)Do I remove 4 large studs on front of motor to front support? 4) Does the motor get tilted to reach the Sherman transmission spline? 5) Is there enough clearance on front motor support? I also have questions on the front mount pulley. Thanks gas tank front support sherman [Reply]   [No Email]
oldtanker 09-10-2012 06:05:08 66.228.255.239 Report to Moderator	Re: 821 repower with 800 motor QUESTIONS in reply to corvetteguy, 09-08-2012 14:21:08   Corvetteguy Check around at tractor salvage yards for some of the parts you need. You may find that getting the correct used arts isn't as expensive as you think. Rick [Reply]  [No Email]
corvetteguy 09-10-2012 07:23:09 65.167.42.181 Report to Moderator	Re: 821 repower with 800 motor QUESTIONS in reply to oldtanker, 09-10-2012 06:05:08   I am in Starrucca PA. I have gone to Marshall's and found they think their scrap is new. I understand there is a yard west of Binghamton. George [Reply]  [No Email]
DaveH(NY) 09-09-2012 05:08:29 184.20.161.214 Report to Moderator	Re: 821 repower with 800 motor QUESTIONS in reply to corvetteguy, 09-08-2012 14:21:08   Hi George, you like me were obviously into hot rods at some point, you have entered into a whole new world with tractors. I also approached mine as you did. Believe me they are so easy to get them up and running. Tony is a great guy I have known him for a while and we have met, he is a wealth of knowledge and it's a privelage to get him to respond to a post....He is like the Lee Iacocca of tractors. I would be glad to give you any help or advice also as I have bebuilt and restored a dozen or more of these tractors in every configuration imagineable. I see you are in NE Pa, I am in Oneonta NY, Otsego county.My email is open if I can help. [Reply]  [No Email]
TONY JACOBS 09-09-2012 06:17:00 64.12.116.9 Report to Moderator	Re: 821 repower with 800 motor QUESTIONS in reply to DaveH(NY), 09-09-2012 05:08:29   Hello Dave , How are you ? Still got your cab on one of my 841's didn't even need it last year with the lack of snow all winter though . Thanks for the compliments , just trying to help out before someone ends with a bigger problem than when they started that's all. Thanks Tony [Reply]  [No Email]
DaveH(NY) 09-09-2012 14:23:48 184.20.161.214 Report to Moderator	Re: 821 repower with 800 motor QUESTIONS in reply to TONY JACOBS, 09-09-2012 06:17:00   Hey Tony, how have you been?? It's been a while since we spoke last. I moved out of Orange county and up to Otsego county NY, we like it much better here. I just went and bought a new self propelled snow blower figuring this winter I will spend the money to insure another mild winter..Might make a trip to Cape Cod next summer, I will let you know. [Reply]  [No Email]
TONY JACOBS 09-08-2012 20:52:05 205.188.116.9 Report to Moderator	Re: 821 repower with 800 motor QUESTIONS in reply to corvetteguy, 09-08-2012 14:21:08   Hello George , Hate to rain on your parade but you need a transmission case that one is junk . The way it has been all cut up it will break as soon as you start using the backhoe hard . Weld what bracket ? on the side of the engine . 1)The fuel tank is wrong it is for a 601 series tractor not an 801 series tractor , you will not be able to install the correct air cleaner . 2)YES 3)NO remove the complete front axle assembly . 4) same as number three . 5) same as number three . Where are you located ? Thanks Tony [Reply]  [No Email]
corvetteguy 09-09-2012 04:16:20 65.167.42.181 Report to Moderator	Re: 821 repower with 800 motor QUESTIONS in reply to TONY JACOBS, 09-08-2012 20:52:05   WOW Tony You Are making my day. I guess I should say that I am fixing this machine to dig holes on my rocky 50 acres in NE Poconos. I am trying to keep it from becoming a money pit in my retirement. I cannot afford to restore it like my Model A's from the 70's. So far you have taught me a lot. 1) The engine can be installed ONLY by removing the front axle. GOOD TO KNOW 2) I included PICS of front support flange that I had to weld.WILL IT HOLD UP??? 3) Previous owner use a sledge to break out the bell housing to fit the jeep starter. I don't see a new one in my future. I only hope that the motor flange plate will hold it together. I figure it held for the decades that it was powered by the jeep. I HOPE... 4) I am going to have to make due with the wrong fuel tank. The jeep used an OUTBOARD MOTOR TANK and fuel PUMP. WHAT MODS DO I NEED? 5)I do not at this time have an air cleaner. CAN YOU SUGGEST ONE TO USE? I am beginning to think it is going to be a costly endeavor but leaving the 821 in my shed never working is probably worse. George broken support Welded hood as purchased [Reply]  [No Email]
TONY JACOBS 09-09-2012 06:34:30 64.12.116.9 Report to Moderator	Re: 821 repower with 800 motor QUESTIONS in reply to corvetteguy, 09-09-2012 04:16:20   Hello Geroge , A few years back my brother and I sawed two 68's in half to rebuild an original 400hp 427 w/trips and a four speed , put it back together with a bunch Eckler's parts and it came out great . It is now an NHRA stock class record holding car . I know what you mean about money pits I've had plenty of them too . 1)Yes, 2)If your welding is good it should. 3)Yes but was he digging in Rock ? I would try to find even a S.O.S case and weld in the pieces so all the bolts will be holding together . 4)&5) You can use the 601 tank if you raise it up some with some spacers on the mounts and you may have to dent in the 801 air cleaner for clearence because the 801 tank is made to clear the larger air cleaner . I didn't think you going for a showroom restoration so you can make it work . Thanks Tony [Reply]  [No Email]